1/2NL Live. Did I play AKo wrong?

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V1 = LAG Calling station. Loose aggressive. Deep stack
V2 = TAG player. Small stack.
Position: V1 ...Hero ....V2 (then button)

I am not trying to become a professional, I just want to improve my basics.
Position, stack sizes, player profiles don't matter much if I think 72o is the best hand ever, and I go all in. CART BEFORE HORSE. This is all the information I can provide from memory. All I want to know is ...Was there a GLARING major f*ck up I made?


I was dealt AK in 2nd to last position.
V2 raises to $25 pre-flop.
I call and so does V1.

Was this a mistake?
I know outcome doesn't matter, but this is what happened:

Flop comes 2 5 8.
V1 bets $20.
Hero folds.
 
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Wait, so V2 acts after you but he raised and you called? I am unsure of what is going on here. How much does V2 have behind if he raised 12.5BB preflop?

Also, I am never folding that dry of a flop with AK to a 10BB bet into an almost 40BB pot.

Anyway, it is hard to give advice on this hand pre since it does not make much sense BUT I think you need to 3 bet with AK here to isolate and I would potentially the raise big enough to make V2 pot committed or even all in depending on how short he is.
 
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Thanks for your reply

Let's run the odds on calling.
With AK, 6 outs means 12%/24% pot equity.
pot odds are 5:1 or 17%
So, it seems like a questionable call since it's 12% vs 17% on the next card.
At the least, calling may not be a no-brainer.

More importantly, 3-betting AK is a generally accepted move? In other words, 3-betting AK is USUALLY not a complete and total blunder? AK generally has 50% equity in head's up, so you do not mind stacking off against 1 player, right? Plus, you introduce fold equity with the big shove, right? So, this becomes EV+ by a large 3-bet with AK. Is that the GENERAL logic?
 
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Looks like 3-betting with AK is accepted play.
Thanks for another great reply to improve my knowledge base.
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Yeah, the action is a bit difficult to follow. Just how short was V2, and how deep is our stack? Was $25 a common preflop raise for this game, or was it out of the ordinary?

In live games nits who bet extraordinarily large preflop are usually doing it with big pairs because they're afraid that if they bet any smaller all the loose players at the table will call and suck out on them.

So it depends a lot on the player - if he's the type that's only doing this with AA/KK, then our AK isn't in great shape. Some of those players will be quick to fold their big pair if they see a scary board, but if he's only got another $50 behind then there's not a lot of value in calling and hoping to push him out.

If, on the other hand, he's just an idiot or he's capable of doing this with hands like JJ and AQ then we're in much better shape.
 
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