Stick's Video: 4-tabling $10NL 9max

Let me know what you think of my play and my thoughts:

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im not home right now but I will look at this later one stick.

Why can't i download off MU? it always seems to say my download limit is exceeded even when i don't download anything from there....*rolls eyes at this video starting to download* never mind

Mehman said:

Why can't i download off MU? it always seems to say my download limit is exceeded even when i don't downloand anything from there....*rolls eyes at this video starting to download* never mind

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Yeah, Megaupload is kinda quirky sometimes. Most have found that if you just hit refresh, the quirk goes away.

MrSticker said:

Yeah, Megaupload is kinda quirky sometimes. Most have found that if you just hit refresh, the quirk goes away.

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downloading now will give comments later.

rule #1 dont post! why? you are just giving money away, just wait the couple hands.


I dont like your 8-6 fold, you cant just put your oponents on the nuts everytime they mini raise you, he could of had alot of hands there that you beat. I would of called there 100% of the time and waited on river.

AA i dont like re-raising there, most of the time I do to isolate the guy that raised but in this case no I want one of the 2 guys behind me to call because the origional raiser only had like .50 behind. I would be looking to get some calls from guys behind me.

I like to 8 table so I'm very comfortable playing lots of tables.


going to C-bet because storm told me to,

again thats a very dry flop with just the J out so its good flop for the C-bet, being able to indentify flop textures is big now if it would of came something like KJ6 2 suits, that is horrible flop texture and you would be in check/fold mode even with your gutshot.

KQ in Big blind, good fold but not just because you would be OOP but also because with 4 limpers you dont know how they are going to react to the raise and if you call the .60 and someone re-raises you are going to have to release. If this was HU and he raised then a raise or even cold call would be ok, even OOP a cold call could disguise the strength of your hand and could get paid off by someone Position raising something like K9

sorry editing alot here dont want like 15 posts.

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AQ I would of called and here is why, by raising so much against the limper you are pretty much commiting yourself to him. He bet basicly pot on the flop and I think he had planned on shoving ANY FLOP. I dont think you are ahead here but I do think there is a good chance he has something like a underpair and is like damn 2 overs screw it im going with it. If anything I want to call this to see what he is calling a 6x PFR with.


Ac7c on board of AsQ68s yea not liking this one a whole lot, now things would be different if you didnt have 2 people to act behind you. There is just not enough money in the pot to make this play profitable. Forget the fact that it worked, that is not important right now. I would of been happy to fold this.

KK played itself, checking is a option on turn to try to induce a bluff on the river if he missed.

all in all I liked this one alot better then your 1st one, one thing though STOP SHOWING YOUR CARDS. There is no good that can come from it, I know your reasoning why you are doing it but it just dosent work. You have to be able to change gears like 3-5 times to make showing your cards profitable. Can you honestly tell me you can raise UTG with 6-9? You have to be able to totally switch to LAG play to make showing profitable, and then switch back once you feel they have caught on. Of course at this level those guys most likely didnt pay attention to your show.

thats it nice video stick.

i couldn't multi table with more then 2 tables cause i suck and am usually busy "working" but one suggestion i might make to you is watch your betting patterns because if anyone is paying attention they will have it noted that you are betting about the same amount with your premium hands and also mix your game up when you check that same person will know you can be easily thrown off a hand with a small raise when the flop doesn't go your way just a couple of things i noticed, nice video though ill make one soon so you can bag me out .

Mehman said:

i couldn't multi table with more then 2 tables cause i suck and am usually busy "working" but one suggestion i might make to you is watch your betting patterns because if anyone is paying attention they will have it noted that you are betting about the same amount with your premium hands and also mix your game up when you check that same person will know you can be easily thrown off a hand with a small raise when the flop doesn't go your way just a couple of things i noticed, nice video though ill make one soon so you can bag me out .

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good points but also realize that TAG players like stick normally dont mix it up which is why LAG's crush them. A Tag players are the ones that usually take from the NITS and maniacs, the rule should be DO NOT USE THE SLIDER. I hate the damn slider I wish I could find a script to get rid of it and never use It I just type in the amount I want to bet.

stormswa said:

I dont like your 8-6 fold, you cant just put your oponents on the nuts everytime they mini raise you, he could of had alot of hands there that you beat. I would of called there 100% of the time and waited on river.

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I guess I like to have better reads on my opps first. Maybe I'm too cautious until I get a read.

AA i dont like re-raising there, most of the time I do to isolate the guy that raised but in this case no I want one of the 2 guys behind me to call because the original raiser only had like .50 behind. I would be looking to get some calls from guys behind me.

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I have it in my head that AA loses strength against too many players. I'll tend to want to debate you on this one, but I'm open to the idea.

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AQ I would of called and here is why, by raising so much against the limper you are pretty much commiting yourself to him. He bet basicly pot on the flop and I think he had planned on shoving ANY FLOP. I dont think you are ahead here but I do think there is a good chance he has something like a underpair and is like damn 2 overs screw it im going with it. If anything I want to call this to see what he is calling a 6x PFR with.

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Yep, I blew this one. I'm not a fan of chasing gutshots, but that one would have been fine.

Ac7c on board of AsQ68s yea not liking this one a whole lot, now things would be different if you didnt have 2 people to act behind you. There is just not enough money in the pot to make this play profitable. Forget the fact that it worked, that is not important right now. I would of been happy to fold this.

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That was me trying to be LAG. Playing the players, not the cards. They all seemed weak. You no likey?

KK played itself, checking is a option on turn to try to induce a bluff on the river if he missed.

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With 2 spades aboard, I feared the flush draw. Didn't want to give a free card.

all in all I liked this one alot better then your 1st one, one thing though STOP SHOWING YOUR CARDS. There is no good that can come from it, I know your reasoning why you are doing it but it just dosent work. You have to be able to change gears like 3-5 times to make showing your cards profitable. Can you honestly tell me you can raise UTG with 6-9? You have to be able to totally switch to LAG play to make showing profitable, and then switch back once you feel they have caught on. Of course at this level those guys most likely didnt pay attention to your show.

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After thinking about it, I think you are right. I never used to show my cards until I got the reputation in the CC games of being super-tight. When I wanted to start bluffing more, I started trying to perpetuate my tight image by showing the nuts while secretly bluffing other hands. I guess I'll go back to being a mystery now.

Thanks again for the feedback, Stormy. I hope others share their ideas, also.

Mehman said:

i couldn't multi table with more then 2 tables cause i suck and am usually busy "working" but one suggestion i might make to you is watch your betting patterns because if anyone is paying attention they will have it noted that you are betting about the same amount with your premium hands and also mix your game up when you check that same person will know you can be easily thrown off a hand with a small raise when the flop doesn't go your way just a couple of things i noticed

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Yep. I'm pretty readable right now. Maybe that's why I tend to lose when I stay longer at a table. Thanks for the tip, man. I'll work on it.

MrSticker said:

I.I have it in my head that AA loses strength against too many players. I'll tend to want to debate you on this one, but I'm open to the idea.
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you are right but when dude raises we have to pretty much mark him out of pot because we know he is going to be all in no matter what and we should be looking how to get someone else in the pot. He only left .80 behind so we should be looking how to get one of the other 2 in pot. If we cold call we give the chance for either one to overcall their hand. If not they fold and we get other guy in on flop he isnt folding for .80

That was me trying to be LAG. Playing the players, not the cards. They all seemed weak. You no likey?


thats what you said dont feel like quoting


you have no idea if they are weak or not, 4 to flop and you are 2nd to act after a bet. You have no clue where you stand and the pot is not big enough to go to war with a weak hand like just top pair no spade.

you said


With 2 spades aboard, I feared the flush draw. Didn't want to give a free card.



again the hand could be played either way and it would of been fine.

Anyone else have trouble viewing?

I'm using Windows MediaPlayer 9. Also tried DIVX. MediaPlayer starts up, flashes what looks like a poker screen, then closes?

NineLions said:

Anyone else have trouble viewing?

I'm using Windows MediaPlayer 9. Also tried DIVX. MediaPlayer starts up, flashes what looks like a poker screen, then closes?

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do you have all the plug-ins for your media player? I have never had problems viewing any video's, cardrunners or users here.

NineLions said:

Anyone else have trouble viewing?

I'm using Windows MediaPlayer 9. Also tried DIVX. MediaPlayer starts up, flashes what looks like a poker screen, then closes?

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Upgrade to WMP 11 or use VLC.

MrSticker said:

Upgrade to WMP 11 or use VLC.

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was thinking that also but forgot what number wmp is on

stormswa said:

That was me trying to be LAG. Playing the players, not the cards. They all seemed weak. You no likey?


thats what you said dont feel like quoting


you have no idea if they are weak or not, 4 to flop and you are 2nd to act after a bet. You have no clue where you stand and the pot is not big enough to go to war with a weak hand like just top pair no spade.

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You mean the 2 blinds checking and having weak stats don't give me a clue? You are right about the pot not being big enough. The guy next to me bet 30c into a 40c pot. I'm not sure why I thought he was weak, but I guess I got lucky. Too anxious to make a LAG move.

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You mean the 2 blinds checking and having weak stats don't give me a clue? You are right about the pot not being big enough. The guy next to me bet 30c into a 40c pot. I'm not sure why I thought he was weak, but I guess I got lucky. Too anxious to make a LAG move.

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the biggest part for me is the pot size, Im not going to war with top pair weak kicker for .30.

the 2 players checking could mean anything remember we didnt raise preflop so those 2 could have anything including a weak flush that they wanted to check/raise.

players at this level are bad and would check/raise a low flush here, higher levels they would lead it out because they are scared of a 4 board flush but these lower levels THEY LOVE to check raise.

plus I think you are relying on your pokertracker stats too much, they are there to help you out of sticky situations, dont let them replace your common sense and judgement decisions.

and another thing what are you doing limping Ac7c in that spot anyway? should of raised it or just folded for this reason specifically.

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one thing though STOP SHOWING YOUR CARDS. There is no good that can come from it, I know your reasoning why you are doing it but it just dosent work. You have to be able to change gears like 3-5 times to make showing your cards profitable. Can you honestly tell me you can raise UTG with 6-9? You have to be able to totally switch to LAG play to make showing profitable, and then switch back once you feel they have caught on. Of course at this level those guys most likely didnt pay attention to your show.

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I just found an interesting article on the subject:

Showing Your Cards in Online Poker

I saw this in Jooses video and now here.

At times, the OP hovers over the users username and must press something to display a list of statistics in a black rectangular box - how do I get that up?

tonymaclennan said:

I saw this in Jooses video and now here.

At times, the OP hovers over the users username and must press something to display a list of statistics in a black rectangular box - how do I get that up?

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pokerace hud.

Another hand.

you Ad6d on a flop of JTx , bad flop texture on this one and that flop is very likely to hit there calling range of hands QJ, QK etc.

this is a time when you can check thru or just call the .30 no reason to put him all in with just flush draw.

I say C-bet more but you need to really look at flop texture before you decide to. On this hand with those cards on board it is very very likely that it hit one of them.

dont try to outplay .05/.10 players look to trap them. If you just called on turn it wouldnt of shown weakness and he couldnt put you on a backdoor flush the way the hand was played so you would of gotten paid off and got the rest of his stack, if missed you could muck easily.

Did you make much money out of this session?