I think it's more than just advertising as PS is already one of the big internet sites.sensationalism...they signed him because it created a buzz which brought PS some attention. IMO its simply an advertising game for them.
[ ] Viktor Blom is a huge fishI think it's more than just advertising as PS is already one of the big internet sites.
When you play cash tables and run into a huge fish, do you not mark him and proceed to follow him around just to get all his money he's willing to give away?
You see my point?
Why sign a losing player unless you have a feeling the sharks will eventually follow?
And he is a losing player, down a little over 2mil according to pokertableratings
And he is a losing player, down a little over 2mil according to pokertableratings
I think they signed someone that FT didnt.... maybe they will get some extra peeps from tilt ...but I dont see it
If they sign Hellmouth ....which is where i think he's going then they may have signed a star.
do u think in todays world the average player or high roller jumps because of a signing?
Lol he was not cheated. Datamining is like so lol.He never would have signed with full tilt. Some of their red pros did data mining on him and used that information to take a ton of money off him. Data mining is against tilt's written policy and THEIR PROS did it and admitted they did it. He found out and demanded a refund from the site. They refused.
I would understand their refusal to refund that money if it was a third party who had broken the rules, but it was someone representing the site. There is no excuse for their pros to break the rules and still be supported by the site.
I don't know anything about isildur1, all this is taken from poker podcast interviews of Daniel Negreanu and Tony G, both of whom feel like isildur1 was cheated.
You seem to be quite adept at missing the point. I will say this again, but slower. I don't care about datamining. I care that it is against full tilt's user agreement and their own pros broke that agreement, thereby gaining an advantage. THEY BROKE THEIR WORD THAT THEY GAVE BY CLICKING THE LITTLE BUTTON SAYING THEY HAVE READ AND AGREE TO THE USER AGREEMENT. I never made the claim that datamining was a big deal, at least not before now.
I looked up what datamining is all about. You are able to buy hand histories for users, even if you were not involved in the hands in question. I don't know how you can say this is no big deal. That is the essence of head up play, figuring out your opponent's patterns and tendencies and adjusting to them before they figure out your's. If you go into a head up battle with an opponent that knows nothing about you but you have studied every one of their hands, you don't think that is an advantage? Probably not for the average poker player but it is a crippling tool for someone who absolutely knows how to use that info to its greatest potential.
but I guess it was all a big publicity stunt for PokerStars... to bust up their name...
FTP does practically nothing to people who buy hands. The fact is, it is against the toc but they dont care. Yes it is against the TOS but ftp doesnt do anything to stop it or do they really punish anybody. Its like comparing stealing a stick of gum to murder, dont be that guy. Im done with this thread.Back to the original point though. You have thus far failed to address the bigger issue of breaking the sites own rules. Obviously full tilt feels that datamining is a big enough deal to ban it in the user agreement. Are you really ok with a site ignoring their own rules even when someone admits to breaking them? If you are ok with them breaking these rules are you ok with superusers? All they really have done is break the user agreement.
If they sign Hellmouth ....which is where i think he's going then they may have signed a star.
Fair enough. I agree it an extreme, and not equitable, comparison. I'm not trying to be contrary, I simply truly do not understand how it isn't considered cheating to use tools banned by the site. Especially if you are payed by the site. Thank you for the discussion, it made me think.