Goodbye NLHE .....Hello PL Omaha Hi/lo

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I wanted to share a few experienices that I have encounter in the last week.My spelling may be a little skewed but just hold on.Anyway back to my encounter.I have been playing NLHE Cash games for 6 mths.I played NLHE Sit-and-gos and MTT for 3 yrs.I have made money but not as quick as I'm making money playing PL omaha hi/lo .Just recently I took the time to really work on my O8 game after playing for a year and 1/2 on and off and these past few weeks it has really taking off after reading an Article from Chip Jett which explains O8 is a game you want to play extremly tight because it can be really profitable.He says to only play cards with an A that suited or it can be unsuited during certain times ,for example play like As 2s 3c Kh.This way you have a protected nut low which means if an 2 comes up you still got the nut low with A3.Or if you gonna play high cards play something like 10s Jh Ks Ac .I followed and tried this method and boy did my game take off.I did really well these last few weeks playing .01/.02 PL O8 making 25/bb(big blinds) not Big Bets )every 30 hands .Some days it not alot .Some days I'm not catching the cards so I would take the day off.Then the next day cont and back on.


I have played NLHE cash games and get way ahead just to lose to a cooler or variance.I realized NLHE is not everybody game .There are people out there that excel more at another game like Nicky fangos who a great stud player but medicore NLHE although has made the final tables playing NLHE but sites stud as his game.Roy Winston another one he a Decent NLHE player won alot of money playing that but excels at PLO.I realized NLHE is not for me.However it the game where most people flock too the game where you will get the most action and the most fishes and money being played.

Back to PL Omaha Front .Like I said I have really devoted my playing for a few weeks playing .01/.02 PL Omaha Hi/lo .I made 60 dollars in three weeks.This is playing .01/.02 Pl O8 .I have never been able to make money like that playing NLHE . PL O8 is gonna be the game where I make my money from. If I was a betting man which we all are .I would take my chances playing O8 and winnning more money on that then I would NLHE .Truth be told I'm making more.If I would know what I learned from that article I would of won that Final Table at FT in Pl O8 back in 08.Instead of 7th which was light and day in payout from 1st and 7th.I'm making 25/bb not Big Blins not Big Bets.So I make .50c every thirty hands some might not believe however I don't care it what I made per every 30 hands but I only play maybe 5 hands out of that 30 but I play the right hands which becomes more profitable for me .I don't always win but more than likley I get half the pot worst case is I get quartered .The best case I scoop the pot.There are times where there is no low .A low will hit about 60-70 % of the time......So NLHE goodbye....... Hello PL O8
 
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Sounds interesting, can you post the article please so i could learn a bit more about O8. I learned the low high thing at the omaha8 but still didn't figured how to profit from this variance of poker, I noticed many people tend to get confused with the low hand.
 
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wouldn't there be alot of hands where one person wins the high, one wins the low, and they both lose to the rake?
 
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wouldn't there be alot of hands where one person wins the high, one wins the low, and they both lose to the rake?

Absolutely, you know someone keeps potting one of them and heads up you have the other winner and yes you lose to rake...

Worse is when someone who has the other low like you... keeps betting and the hi repots and you get quartered
 
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Play to scoop. I'm pretty sure players at that level are bent on chasing highs.
 
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Really would be nice if you posted the article or a link to it...
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Sounds interesting, can you post the article please so i could learn a bit more about O8. I learned the low high thing at the omaha8 but still didn't figured how to profit from this variance of poker, I noticed many people tend to get confused with the low hand.
Here's an excellent article (well, 2 written by the same guy), one of the few I've seen written on a somewhat advanced level....

http://www.playwinningpoker.com/omaha/pot-limit/plo8/

http://www.playwinningpoker.com/omaha/strategy/
 
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wouldn't there be alot of hands where one person wins the high, one wins the low, and they both lose to the rake?

Don't know that it would be 'a lot of hands' ... but it can happen. In many cases there will be at least one other player (or adding folded blinds) that will more or less cover the rake.

I play more limit O than I do PLO, and there are usually several players that will stay in for a round or two of betting, then fold when their 'hole pair' doesn't hit. That amount will almost always cover the rake.
 
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You can do well at O8 with a lot of patience, as all the articles point out you need scoopable premium hands to get heavily involved, and they rarely come along, so you will spend a lot of time sitting on your hands, watching the paint dry, until the right cards come along. If you can do that, you will be OK. If you try to get action as in HE, you will get yrself in trubbles.
 
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Interesting to hear that you're able to be consistently winning by just following the basics.
I've never played much PLO/ OmH/L but I do watch my nextdoor neighbour multi-table at 100NL. Watching him play has made me aware of how little I really know about the game. I've read exerpts from books (omaha section), have a good grasp of decent starting hands etc., but with my inexperience, where I run into difficulties is quickly calculating my outs & odds for staying in the hand or potting it or what have you. I'm sure this would all come with experience but I have just never invested the time in the game.... yet. Watching my neighbour, it's like split second decisions and he's jumping out of his chair, telling me how great the flop has hit him, he's got a wrap and he's got this & that.... & I'm sitting there wondering how far ahead he really might even be. Watching him makes it all alot more intimidating for myself but I guess I should stop & think about it... I'm sure the game is much different at say .02/.05 than it is at .50/1.00
I'm glad you've written this post & shared your experiences so far at the micro limits of this game. I might have to give it a shot. I was thinking that it must be tough to still get paid off on monsters when you're playing very few hands, but I suppose at the super micros they're calling you with prs. in their hand regardless. Also makes sense what poster above said that at the super micro limits alot of them are chasing after the 'Hi' hands.

GL on the tables and hope it keeps working out for ya.
 
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one time I got the dream hand--A234, the 234 got counterfeited, and a guy with A5 scooped :dontknow:
 
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PLO is one of my favorite games.
I will play plo over holdem any day of the week.
I really love to play plo live as to online.
I will play online but love it live.
 
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Looks like you become PRO :) I read many biographs of Big poker guys, and many of them changed NLH to Omaha.
It is more harder game. There are not many manuals for it.
Good luck!
 
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