Scenario

This happened to me earlier.

Im one off the button with Pocket 3's. I limp in hoping to see a cheap flop, SB raised 3x big blind i decide to go for it. HU The flop 7d-2c-9d, SB raises alittle more then half the pot. What should i do?

Would re-raising to see where im at be a good idea? If so, how big a re-raise should it be, a min raise would give him good pot odds to call if he is on the diamond draw, but i dont want to waste chips.

I dont see him raising with a 9 or a 7 in his hand, a big pocket pair maybe, but is this most likely a c-bet?

I ended up folding.

Thanx for the feedback.

I think you made only one mistake. The initial call should have been folded to be certain where you were, out of the pot you no business in in the first place.

Your play is good however to fully answer your question I need to know your stack sizes (how many BBs you have) and also if you have any reads on the villan.

From the info you gave tho you didn't play this badly at all, in fact depending on your stack size a call on the flop might even be the right play, float him and then see how he acts on the turn because if he does check to you on the turn (since you have position) you might have the best hand and can bet out aggressively and take the pot

You should forget about trying to make good of a bad situation and look at where the single worst mistake came from. You limped PF in late position (repping a weak pair or other weak hand) and then called a raise from the player who is guaranteed to be out of position for the remainder of the hand. (thus should have a strong range)

You flat call, again you signal that your hand is a weak hand (small PP fit nicely into this, maybe its some wierd low ace)

Then the preflop raiser (the guy with the stronger range) c-bets half pot (a bet that needs to work only 33% of the time with air.. not that he only does this with air, to show a profit).

And its at this point that you hope to put right all of that bad play with a bluff.

mmmmm


His range is most likely al PPs AJo+ , ATs+ KJs+ KQo, QJs (assuming he is playing a decent range from the blinds)

At this point, it dosent really matter what you do.

A player can c-bet you with anything in his range here, and you are 100% weak. All of his overcards, have equity against you, most of his pairs beat your range (not just talking about the 33 here) and against these bluffs with equity, he still only needs to achieve that fold figure of 33% with air to beat you.

You are right in thinking that your choices are to fold or to raise (calling here is just terrible)

So what are the stack sizes? can you raise him off his hand?

THe other issue is that there is no way of rescuing yourself from this in the LR. if you start raising big with weak hands, people will just shove on you, you cant call with weak hands and hit sets all of the time!! people arent stupid!!

Really you should have raised PF.

You are then in position AND have the PF initiative (because lets face it if he re-raised PF then you fold.. so we have capped his hand strength)

Start poting in the HH section and hopefully you can improve on this.

jmasterrich said:

From the info you gave tho you didn't play this badly at all, in fact depending on your stack size a call on the flop might even be the right play, float him and then see how he acts on the turn because if he does check .....

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WHAT???


Why float him here? because you can??

lets face it, the C-better here is likely floating himself anyway, but the hands he does this with have equity against 33.

If he has hit this flop, he wont fold as its something like A9 A7 TT 88 or the nut or second nut FD.

From the action thus far, you cant remove those kinds of hands.

His unmade hands will stil call the turn.

THe issue here is that the poster has a weak range (noone with a strong range is limp calling a small PP in late position, calling an OOP raise and then getting stumped on the flop.

When your range is strong, players resect your calls and raises, when your range is weak they do not... and why not, because 70% of the time you have nothing and are reluctant to play a big pot.

So how is this hand played well to the point on the flop???

9 man sng, theres 6 players left. i have 2700+ he has about 1500. He hasnt really played much. I dont have a read, if i had to make one id say tight-passive, he limped acouple then folded.




Blinds: 80-40

Teebone said:

9 man sng, theres 6 players left. i have 2700+ he has about 1500. He hasnt really played much. I dont have a read, if i had to make one id say tight-passive, he limped acouple then folded.




Blinds: 80-40

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After the limp fold preflop or 3-bet bluff

You dont have sufficient implied odds to call his 2BB raise and set-mine.

You have given up post flop initative by L/C PF.

Another way of putting it is what were you hoping to see post flop with 33 (other than the set which you dont have sufficient implied odds and also the wrong type of opponent to do it against)

I would fold after not hitting the flop. "No set, no bet." He may very well have had pocket 2's and hit his set on that flop. I see no compelling reason to continue with pocket 3's after that flop. Save your chips for a better place later.