Shumkoolie
Legend
Silver Level
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The result doesn't really matter here (it's great that I won), but the way my opponents played the hand really puzzled me, and wanted to get your thoughts on this.
Player 4 - P4
Player 5 - P5
Me - Shumkoolie (in the video)
P4 raises pre, P5 calls, I overcall in late position with QJdd which plays well in position, even against multiple players and I really don't want to re-open the betting and risk getting blown off a hand that I want to see a flop with.
On the flop, P4 donk leads just over one-third pot, P5 calls, and I call. I have the second nut flush draw.
Then on the turn, I hit my flush, and now P4 checks, P5 now makes a tiny bet, about 17% of the pot ($0.30). I raise to $1.16 here to both try and build a pot, but also to protect my hand against Kx (only the K is a diamond). Perhaps I could even get a smaller flush to come along too because they may be thinking exactly the same thing I am, and they're looking to protect their hand.
Here's where I feel like I'm not sure I have the best hand. P4 calls, and now P5 who led folds. P4 leading on the flop and then check-calling the turn OOP is a play that I see quite a bit when a player hits a flush because they want to induce a bluff, which is in my mind here. At the same time, what puts doubt in my mind is that P4 played the turn so passively that I am thinking that I have the best hand here, and I'm going to shove the river for value.
The River puts a 4 flush on the board, and I'm thinking at this point, with $4.25 in the pot, and I only have $3.79 behind, my hand is good enough of the time that shoving for value is going to be profitable. I just don't feel that Kx of diamonds shows up in P4's range enough of the time, and when he checks behind, I'm almost certain I'm good. P4 check calls my shove, and he pulls up a rivered straight.
The river card was perfect for me (a 2 would have been the same as the 7) because he was chasing a gutshot straight draw on the flop, then an open-ended straight draw on the turn, then hitting on the river. Any other card and he isn't paying me off. I guess what is puzzling for me is that with a 4 flush on the river, how could my opponent NOT put me on a flush especially with my raise on the turn.
I guess that brings up two questions.
1. Am I correct in thinking that Kx (K is a diamond only) is not in P4's range enough of the time that my betting through here is the right line to take every time?
2. What is P4 thinking here???
P4 played the hand oddly.
Thoughts?????
The result doesn't really matter here (it's great that I won), but the way my opponents played the hand really puzzled me, and wanted to get your thoughts on this.
Player 4 - P4
Player 5 - P5
Me - Shumkoolie (in the video)
P4 raises pre, P5 calls, I overcall in late position with QJdd which plays well in position, even against multiple players and I really don't want to re-open the betting and risk getting blown off a hand that I want to see a flop with.
On the flop, P4 donk leads just over one-third pot, P5 calls, and I call. I have the second nut flush draw.
Then on the turn, I hit my flush, and now P4 checks, P5 now makes a tiny bet, about 17% of the pot ($0.30). I raise to $1.16 here to both try and build a pot, but also to protect my hand against Kx (only the K is a diamond). Perhaps I could even get a smaller flush to come along too because they may be thinking exactly the same thing I am, and they're looking to protect their hand.
Here's where I feel like I'm not sure I have the best hand. P4 calls, and now P5 who led folds. P4 leading on the flop and then check-calling the turn OOP is a play that I see quite a bit when a player hits a flush because they want to induce a bluff, which is in my mind here. At the same time, what puts doubt in my mind is that P4 played the turn so passively that I am thinking that I have the best hand here, and I'm going to shove the river for value.
The River puts a 4 flush on the board, and I'm thinking at this point, with $4.25 in the pot, and I only have $3.79 behind, my hand is good enough of the time that shoving for value is going to be profitable. I just don't feel that Kx of diamonds shows up in P4's range enough of the time, and when he checks behind, I'm almost certain I'm good. P4 check calls my shove, and he pulls up a rivered straight.
The river card was perfect for me (a 2 would have been the same as the 7) because he was chasing a gutshot straight draw on the flop, then an open-ended straight draw on the turn, then hitting on the river. Any other card and he isn't paying me off. I guess what is puzzling for me is that with a 4 flush on the river, how could my opponent NOT put me on a flush especially with my raise on the turn.
I guess that brings up two questions.
1. Am I correct in thinking that Kx (K is a diamond only) is not in P4's range enough of the time that my betting through here is the right line to take every time?
2. What is P4 thinking here???
P4 played the hand oddly.
Thoughts?????