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lukeellul92
Rock Star
Silver Level
It depends on how big the games play. For example the 2/5 games here are super deep and 10k would not be a comfortable roll.
I would suggest to be truly comfortable it would be 25k for 2/5
Swings are swings. Doesnt really matter whether it is online or live but obv in live you have more time to reassess but swings are swings
Are you talking about how much you need to begin playing for a living or just how much you need to play at all?
Yes but in online poker you need a bankroll just to play on x number of tables. That's like the absolute minimum you need at all times. In live poker its just 1 buy in to start playing.
Then of course in any given online session even in winning ones you will be losing on some tables and obviously the money is stuck on the winning ones so then you need even more bankroll to keep feeding the tables you are not winning at. Where as in live poker you only have to manage feeding one table.
So basically in online poker more money is permanently stuck just to be able to play.
Now I have no idea what level of play 1/2 casino games have but in my home games with friends I have never experienced more than a 500BB swing over a huge sample. Level of play is obviously pretty bad.
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Probably somewhere in the middle hey. I work full time so my Poker time is on Friday or Saturday nights, sometimes both if I have no plans, as well as Sundays days.
I want a bankroll, so that if I do become successful it can be a side income, but without the risk of having to use my life money.
Honestly for 1/2 don't worry about it. It's not like you can move down to smaller live stakes if you hit a downswing. Just set aside an amount you don't mind losing and play. If that's only $2k then play 1/2 and worry about bankroll once you gain experience and start building your roll consistently.
Live poker is so much different. Even though the blinds are $1/$2 it is really more like playing a short stack at a $2/$5 or $4/$8 table honestly.
Maybe it's just in my area of the US (I haven't played poker live too many places), but it doesn't matter that the blinds are $1/$2. A raise to $6 or $8 means nothing to 90% of the players. If you want a preflop raise to be taken seriously it needs to be $12+. Otherwise there are way too many limpers.
Then the problem with that is if the buy in is 100bb ($200), you could be investing 40-80% of your stack in a single hand. For instance: Preflop raise to $12, two callers, pot = $36. Half to 3/4 pot raise, one caller, pot = ~$90. And you still have the bets on the turn and river to go!
Because of this inherent issue in live cash games, I would say the minimum bankroll should be at least 40 buy ins which is $8000 for a $1/$2 cash game. Personally I wouldn't feel comfortable unless I was rolled with about 50-60 buy ins but I like to make sure I'm covered for any huge downswings.
Our home games are also like that in terms of pre flop raises but I don't see how this makes for a higher BR requirement. If players are so careless about the value of the BB then that just means they are bad players and a good player will be consistently winning in such games. You can say the per hand variance will be higher but not overall since it will be so easy to get action with your premiums. If too many players are calling your raises keep raising more and you will eventually find the optimum balance to isolate one or 2 players with your premiums.
What this also means is that because there are so many players in pre flop your speculative hands can be played even with higher than standard pre flop 2 bets.
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I, and the shear math involved, very very much disagree.