Flopped sets into flushed boards

If you flop a set into a board of all the same suit is it smart to get all your money in, even if you're calling an all in? I recently played a hand where this happened to me and i called the all in because i was getting slightly better than 3 to 1 on my money. I ended up having the best hand but got outdrawn by somebody with 2 pair hitting a boat. even if he did have the flush, was this a smart call or should i be willing to lay down sets into flushed boards on the flop.

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I would like to quote a writer or many of them here.


being able to lay down big hands is what seperates good players from bad players. It is all situational, is it a tourney for your tourney life or a cash game? Has the guy been making plays like this all night?


In normal situations every bet you make is for a reason, you are not just betting $52 into a $103 pot because you like the green chips and they look pretty in the pot. You are betting that to reduce someones odds and to see how they react to the bet. Once you recieve that information on the flop then on turn you reavaluate on the danger of the turn card and again try to gather some info from your opponent. By pushing all in on flop or calling you really have no info so you have to go back one street and try to put the pieces of the puzzle together.

in your situation it is hard because you have a good hand with the set but there is a flush out. It is a rough spot, if you feel this is a guy you can outplay like 80% of the time I would be inclined to fold here and wait him out. even if he has 1 heart it is still a gamble, of course if he is a decent player and you have ok odds to call then call.

any of that make sense?

It's really situational, as storm says. Not just the bets and position, but your reads on the player(s).

In really micro levels or a freeroll, they might have just the Ace of the suit and be pushing. If no-one leads, you have to bet to see if anyone has anything at all. You might be good right now, but you have to make someone sitting with a 9 of the suit not get a free card.

You do have to be able to lay down your hand if you think there's a good enough chance that you're beaten, but a push may or may not mean that you're beaten.

General rule of thumb: if you flop a set, getting all the money in on the flop is not a bad thing. Even if you're against a flush or straight, you're like 37% to fill up on the turn or river, and very often someone with a pair and a draw to a flush, or some other kind of combo draw will play it strongly enough to get their money in on the flop, putting you well ahead in those spots.

The thing about being 37% to fill up is that, by the time enough action has happened to strongly tell you that your opponent probably has flopped a flush or straight, you're often getting laid good enough pot odds to get the money in anyway. Most of the spots where you could reasonably fold a set on the flop are just so borderline EV anyway that I don't think it's worth it to spend too much time thinking about. You wouldn't do wrong to just play sets fast on monotone flops and try to get the money in if you can.