Originally Posted by LuckyChippy
You need to start thinking of ranges but generally you're right. The reason we flat the hands above is because when we 3-bet nothing worse will call and that defeats the point when we have such a strong hand. Generally they will have a weak range (CO vs BTN) and we want to keep in lots of that range so we make value bets later on when we hit, and make them fold on the right flops where their range doesn't connect well with the flop. Yes that means making them fold when we don't have it.
At the moment it seems like you're talking just in terms of making moves like raising c-bets without any reason why. You are mentioning barrelling scare cards though so there's some thought to how we're going to steal the pot.
I think the first step is to look at flops, both as the c-bettor and facing c-bets and try to figure out ranges on different flop textures. Learn to play pre, learn to play the flop, learn to play the turn, learn to play the river.
For example, what flops do you want to c-bet (REGARDLESS OF YOUR HAND) where you think you have a lot of fold equity. Which ones shouldn't you c-bet. Which ones will he c-bet that don't actually fit his range that well (making his range weak and figuring if it's possible to win the hand either by calling him down or making him fold).
It's complex and it takes work.
Vs. loose players who are somewhat aggressive I tend to c-bet any flop with no more than one Broadway card. These players love to play Ax, Kx and if they call and there is an A or K on the board I'm usually check/folding the turn without a hand. I hate releasing KK here but after losing my Kings to Ace rag a few dozen times, I now know better.
Vs. nits I actually play it the same as vs LAGs as AK makes up a huge part of their range (for a 7/6 nit AK makes up about 1/5 of their preflop raising range) and they fold easily. If a Nit open raises and then checks the flop I often check behind if I don't have any real equity and if they check the turn it almost means AK and I'll raise regardless of what I have.
vs. calling stations who don't do much c-betting or re-raising I will bet dry boards. Unless I have a strong hand I need to protect I often check wet flops especially monotone boards, paired boards and middle straight boards full of 9's,8's & 7's as they are more likely to have hit that flop. If a CS calls two streets I'm usually checking the river unless I have a very poweful hand (Set or better).
Vs. weak tight I pretty much c-bet any flop as they tend to do a lot of set/flush mining and play fit/fold.
Here's an example of a hand where I c-bet two streets vs villain who was 73/32/ 3 for the session. The fact that he didn't bet or raise on the flop with an Af of 3 told me he had nothing:
PokerStars - $0.05 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3
Hero (CO): $5.09
SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05
Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero
UTG raises to $0.10
, LP calls $0.10, Hero
calls $0.10, fold
, BB calls $0.05
Flop: ($0.42, 4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, LP bets $0.10
, Hero raises to $0.35
, LP calls $0.25
Turn: ($1.12, 2 players)
LP checks, Hero bets $0.35