Dealing with the maniacs on micro stackes horse games-aka are they rigging the game ?

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Hi there!
I play horse 8pls 1,25$ sng most of the time (hold em alone is getting a bit boring) but often run into a bunch of complete weirdos.
I try to stay calm and pick the right situation but it is kind of hard to play against these guys.
Today I had 4 of them at my table, raising everything like hell and taking turns in winning, none of them would bust. The other three players were eliminated after a while (playing with decent hands - rererereraised to the max and rivered in the end).
I managed to survive till the bubble and then in razz (50/150) weird things started to happen.
The fourth guy was small stack, went all in from the start, I called and the player behind me reraised me showing a K.
I thought ok. A2K maybe and called.
The fourth player called too.
the board was like:
small stack: xx6-4-9
me: A25-10-9
maniac xxK-K-Q
weirdo xxQ-3-5

4th street in got a 10, maniac K - raised, weirdo 3 reraised, small: K
--I called
5th: maniac: Q (guess what: raise), weirdo: 5 (reraise) , me:9 - fold
6th: maniac:2 - instafold
I thought to myself: hell what is going on here ?
small stack won the main pot, weirdo the side pot.

Then it changed to stud hi:
I got AcAhKc and raised
maniac: xxQ reraise
small: xx8 reraise
weirdo: xx10 rereraise
I called
this went on to: 6th street

me: Ac-Ah-Kc-3h-4h-2c (AAK)
maniac:x-Ks-Qs-Qh-6s-Qc (QQQ)
small: x-A-8-7-8-2 (88A)
weirdo: folded
....and know i folded, maniac would have needed 80 to call small with a pot of 6800 and put him all in - AND THEN MANIAC FOLDED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I thought to myself: "They are rigging this round"

I had to battle another 30 min and placed 2nd - but I marked them and if they ever show up anywhere I won't play with them again AND I will inform Fulltilt what is going on there.
I still have a feeling they singled me out and wanted to push me out together, what do you think ???





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i play NLH 6.50/11+1/ sngs on stars the most and occasionally some tourneys with a higher buy-in and i do ok there...the higher the buy-in the more i feel at home and i really enjoy playing the players i meet there...if someone pull a good move at me and knocks me out i respect that...3days ago i cashed out from pokerstars just to try it out see how long it takes etc etc i left a little over 150$ on stars to play further but i tryed to hard to get my bankroll back to the level it was bfore i cashed out so ive lost it all on 1 day:mad::eek:leaving myself a bankroll of 40 cents
went to a 0.10 360entrants tourny and placed first earned myself 8.50 there
i went to the 1+0.10 buy in sng`s with 45 entrants and its crazy!!!!!it makes no sence they should kick those tables from every room and kick all the players there allso off the room and bann them forever!!!i see thins there that have nothin to do with poker!
even worse!if u play poker the way it should be played..u know that u gonna get kicked out pretty early!
i dont even wanna go in to deep on the hands u encouter there...pffffff its just too sad....i raise substantionally preflop with AK pop pop pop 3 guys all inn i fold i see 8-4 vs 5-9 vs j-5 :confused: preflop raise by me with AJ gets punished by a 7-4 suited caller and flush at river hitter:mad:
all inn before flop with my pocket aces (after raise re raise re reraise with one "player")the guy had re raised my raise with K-6 suited and hits his flush i can go on for hours not even to mention that its impossible to make moves against guys like that. where even a pro would fold and pays his respect to the move u made (bluff,check,check-raise whatever)these guys they dont give a ******* about moves,strategy,outs etc.. they just addicted to the all inn button (and the call with crap and suckout button)
i love poker (mayb a bit to much) but on tables like that i cant stand the game its just to frustrating....il stay away there and make a new deposit:cool:
but its a sad fact that there are so much **** out there ruining the game....
 
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For post #1, it looks like there may have been collusion in that game...but more likely the maniac is just screwing around at low stakes. I'd probably follow that screen name around to see how/where/with whom it normally plays. Unless its a missclick, something is off when QQQ folds for ~1 percent of the pot .

For post #2, way to get sidetracked with your own rant.
 
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for post #1, wat.

for post #2, wat.
 
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Its not an abbreviation. Its just "what" but misspelled. This misspelling of "what" indicates that he thinks your post is hard to read, and fairly ridiculous.

I tend to agree with him.
 
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Ah, ok.
Think I must learn how to use the hand-history converter.
...and I got carried away a bit, I guess.
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if ye want better poker move up a few levels,,, at micro u always get idiots that bang every hand till they double or treble up
,,the thing is wen they get chips they are hard 2 beat cos online sites tend 2 favour bigstak bullies
 
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Post 2: Makes sense to me. I feel this way a lot of the time.
 
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Hey Graf, I see a lot of idiot play in HORSE, in the end it makes me money most of the time...
 
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Makwa said:
Hey Graf, I see a lot of idiot play in HORSE, in the end it makes me money most of the time...
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Yep Makwa I don't mind playing against idiots, but when there is collusion and soft-playing and chip dumping, then I get furious....
 
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TIGERSTUMP said:
if ye want better poker move up a few levels,,, at micro u always get idiots that bang every hand till they double or treble up
,,the thing is wen they get chips they are hard 2 beat cos online sites tend 2 favour bigstak bullies
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HOW do the sites favor big stack bullies? Again someone is saying the hands are not random and hence unfair. Is there any evidence for this besides testimonial?? Thanks for thoughts.
 
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chigal said:
HOW do the sites favor big stack bullies? Again someone is saying the hands are not random and hence unfair. Is there any evidence for this besides testimonial?? Thanks for thoughts.
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...to put it right here: NOT the game was rigged (i.e. not the program) but the players cheated.... that was the point.
 
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