its funny, i watch the pros on tv to try to learn, then you see players making moves you wouldn't dream of making..sometimes it works ,sometimes it doesn't...if we make a play like that its blasphamey..if phil ivey does it its a "solid move" dont get me wrong i love watching them play, but imo its hard to learn a whole lot watching daniel negreanu go all in with 3 4os or calling david williams down for 500k with k high..dont get me wrong im a huge fan of dn and ivey but they play on a diffrent level thats hard for me to phathom...