Originally Posted by BlueNowhere
At a local tourney and me and another guy are fairly well stacked, I have him covered. I make a nut flush on the river, he donk bets into me and I look at him for about half a minute before asking him how much he has. He doesn't really respond, just mumbles so I told him if he didn't say I'm going all in. He started counting and then as he was saying I moved all in, he folded and started saying it was a dirty trick, I just said your body language and voice told me everything I needed to know (obviously not true, I was going all in anyway, thought i'd try abit of talking for a change). Anyway he seems to be pretty wound up by that and after getting lucky against someone he has me fairly well covered but seems to be trying to get into a pot against me. I end up against him with two pair, he re-raises so I raise half my stack instantly. He asks how much I have and I just blank him (I'm doing the hellmuth here as well, hands over mouth, not looking anywhere). He then starts saying I have to tell him, he asks twice again and I continue to ignore him. After a few minutes he ends up shoving I call and he loses. He then starts saying its appaling etiquette and a few others at the table agree with him. I argued that it wasn't and he was just pissed because I'd outplayed him in both pots and he'd let me get inside his head. I argued that my objective as a poker player is to win as many chips as possible. Don't play that much live poker so unsure if I'm correct on the etiquette, I was sure but I was the only one who seemed to think that it wasn't bad etiquette to ignore him when he asks, especially given the context when i think it's more likely to make him do something questionble. Who was correct here?
Actually I think he is right and blanking him was bad etiquette.
You do not have to give a chip count when asked.
However the etiquette is that if you ask for a chip count then you are agreeing to give chip counts when asked.
He did start to count his chips when you asked, therefore its bad etiquette to not reciprocate.
Doyle Brunson is very upfront about this, he dosent give chip counts, but he dosent ask for the either.
Someone like Tom Dwan regularly asks for chip counts and I have never seen him refuse to give one when asked.