Americas Cardroom keeps on reseating me 5 to 10 times during tournaments.
Andrew Popov
Legend
Bronze Level
Big guys knock out players and become even bigger. At the table, the seat on which other players are put is released. History repeats itself, but now you are under pressure.
Usually, when talking about the correct and honest RNG, forget that in the poker room tournaments there are still many unobvious opportunities to complicate or facilitate the life of the player. For example, the composition of the table behind which you will play in the tournament. After all, unlike the cash game you do not choose at which table to sit. It is believed that this is an accident. But there are stronger players and weaker ones. You probably prefer to sit at the same table with fish or medium players. But someone else ordered it.
In large tennis tournaments there is such a rule as a "seeded player". This is when strong players from the top line of the ranking are placed in the tournament grid in such a way that they do not meet each other in the first round of the tournament. Games between the "first rackets" happen not earlier than a quarter of the final. In tournament poker, the same method is possible. Only as a "meat" for the future champion will you.
Usually, when talking about the correct and honest RNG, forget that in the poker room tournaments there are still many unobvious opportunities to complicate or facilitate the life of the player. For example, the composition of the table behind which you will play in the tournament. After all, unlike the cash game you do not choose at which table to sit. It is believed that this is an accident. But there are stronger players and weaker ones. You probably prefer to sit at the same table with fish or medium players. But someone else ordered it.
In large tennis tournaments there is such a rule as a "seeded player". This is when strong players from the top line of the ranking are placed in the tournament grid in such a way that they do not meet each other in the first round of the tournament. Games between the "first rackets" happen not earlier than a quarter of the final. In tournament poker, the same method is possible. Only as a "meat" for the future champion will you.
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terryk
TheCanuckwithalltheluck
Bronze Level
Looks like it's just you man,,,,they must of got wind of that big stack of $$$ you have between you're mattresses!
BHowell44
Rock Star
Silver Level
This happens to me ALL the time! Sometimes it's so annoying it makes me not want to play on their site at times. Consistently happens to me every tournament or sit n go. Esp when I am on the button about to see a hand I get switched and have to wait 2 more full hands until I get cards again. So annoying
BHowell44
Rock Star
Silver Level
That is true it is normal in a poker tournament. I guess it just seems like it happens more online because you are seeing more hands etc. But it is still extremely annoying especially if you are low on chips and the blinds are high and they move you into the bb. That happens to me fairly often. If they moved me to a same position I was at previously I wouldn't mind haha.
RennMeister
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Looks like it's just you man,,,,they must of got wind of that big stack of $$$ you have between you're mattresses!
You might be right about that. Let me send them some money, so I can be a
Poker_Mike
Legend
Loyaler
Well the reseating happens because they are re-balancing tables as they break or more players register. It can be annoying because you are out of play. At least you often come in behind the button.
This can happen more in large field tournaments that are so big that players exit in waves and so it feels like your screen is just blinking with the "taking you to a new table" flag. Definitely see it a lot more if there are a lot of players sitting out that never played a hand. They should all go out approximately the same time within an orbit of each other. And that should start a cascade of table consolidation.
In live tournaments the floor has the discretion to pause and see how a hand plays out if a shortstack is all in. Instead of moving live players more than once in an orbit the floor may see if the table re-balances itself by knocking out a player.
I really like the comment about "seeded" players. Basically he is saying that dominant play results in big stacks. And that is what you are up against.
You might consider studying how to play against big stacks at the table. Put on a clinic - and pack that tool in your poker toolkit.
Good luck !
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ruk1dd1ngme
Visionary
Silver Level
ACR reseating
I play almost exclusively at ACR and do have the same problem. I also know, however, that the software at ACR is identical to a site that I used to play at -- PokerHost.com until it closed down.
The re-seating algorithms are thus determined by the package, not the site itself. I also heard that BCP is another site that uses the same software, and thus has the same seating algorithms.
Nothing can be done about how they do it, but I do believe it's fair and is just trying to keep people at the tables as close to full as possible. I also noticed that they try to put you in the same position relative to the button as possible which is cool.
I play almost exclusively at ACR and do have the same problem. I also know, however, that the software at ACR is identical to a site that I used to play at -- PokerHost.com until it closed down.
The re-seating algorithms are thus determined by the package, not the site itself. I also heard that BCP is another site that uses the same software, and thus has the same seating algorithms.
Nothing can be done about how they do it, but I do believe it's fair and is just trying to keep people at the tables as close to full as possible. I also noticed that they try to put you in the same position relative to the button as possible which is cool.
RennMeister
Enthusiast
Silver Level
I know how to play big stacks. However, I feel like the house is doing that to me on purpose, so I can’t bully anybody at the table. And to take me out of the game. It’s hard to make into the money when you only get a few playable hands and the lucky guys at the table (who I always have to play) get to play almost every hand and win with it. What hurts even more is, when you finally get a strong hand such as AK in position and then one of the lucky mofos takes you out with 75o in the Big Blind.
RennMeister
Enthusiast
Silver Level
I just wish that they would seat me with people that have about the same amount of BBs, to keep things fair. Most of the time, I have to play super tight and make it into the money with only a few playable hands. Or perhaps, I need to stop being a freeloader and deposit more money, so I get more premium hands, etc.
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ruk1dd1ngme
Visionary
Silver Level
Yeah I hear you
I always seem to get seated with some of the biggest stacks when I can least afford to play against them. I really don't think the software considers stack size when it determines seating but it sure seems like it.
Good luck! And FYI, I have $130 that was totally gained from freeloading, so keep it up!
I always seem to get seated with some of the biggest stacks when I can least afford to play against them. I really don't think the software considers stack size when it determines seating but it sure seems like it.
Good luck! And FYI, I have $130 that was totally gained from freeloading, so keep it up!
swannymojo
Rock Star
Silver Level
Yes. I frequently get resat on ACR but i generally don't see any correlation in the stack sizes that i'm sat with. Maybe I need to be more attentive to that...but probably just confirmation bias. Since you expect to see something you see it alot more and your bias to see something causes you to see it more often and therefore confirms your theory.
Or. ACR just wants you specifically to lose all of your tourneys. Hang in there.
RennMeister
Enthusiast
Silver Level
I think the latter is true. But that’s not all, I also always have to play against the same opponents. There are three- to five-hundred people participating in these freerolls/tournaments and I always have to play the same guys and loose to the same guys. There are three kinds of players. When I look them up on sharkscope.com, there are the chosen ones, account has been in an uptrend from day one, and sometimes all from freerolls. Or the guy who really sucks at poker and because he is several hundred dollars down, he can’t be beat and just gets to have fun. And thirdly, the shady player with a .com in his name, who’s profile is hidden on sharkscope.com and is most likely a bot.
Moreover, my luck never changes. I’m always on the shit grit. And the chosen ones will flop a full house with 53o UTG +1 or they get nothing but premium hands or they get to win with whatever shitty hand they play in any position.
MrPokerVerse
Legend
Bronze Level
Yeah, that is known as the musical no bluff chairs. I'm sure it is just you, you made the list Be proud you made something. You could always ask the poker client what determines that process. My guess it is the same for everyone. What ever that is.
Chief talking bull
Visionary
Bronze Level
That's just online poker. The games are fast so the tables break up quickly. Learn to love before it gets you down.
Raccoony
Visionary
Silver Level
That sometimes can happen and it really can be annoying.Once I was in a tournament and in less than an hour I was moved from table to table at least 5 times.I think that was at pokerstars and it really wasn't any fun playing that tournament.
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michaeloconnor1230
Rising Star
Bronze Level
It happens to me a lot. I've been reseated 5 times in the first 10 minutes more than once. What also happens a lot is that they will send you to a tbl with only 2 other players which puts you in the blinds on every hand but 1. and then even after other players come to the tbl they will continue to only deal to the original 3 players over and over again, as if no one else was even there.
it seems like the moves are just designed to accommodate the new players. I've never been moved from a full tbl to a short-handed tbl in a real brick and mortar tourney just to accommodate late arrivals.
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michaeloconnor1230
Rising Star
Bronze Level
ya, thats also called the Baader-Meinhof phenomena.
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Rockpool
Rising Star
Bronze Level
Don't feel special - it happens to me too. The shorter the stack, the more likely it is to happen.
