Bodog Launches New Software Today!

[dmorris68]

I don't think they'll lose ALL their poker players. What they'll lose is the market that CardsChat caters to. And 2+2, and P5's, all the coaching sites, etc. Basically any community of serious poker players that want to improve and becoming winning players.

bodog cares only about the gamblers and fish, who want to try out poker or come over from the sportsbook/casino side and donk off a few hundred bucks here and there, and reload regularly. Basically those that constantly pump money into their economy but never take any out. Remember, they are quoted as saying "winning players are withdrawing players, and withdrawing players are bad for the poker economy." There are more of the fishy recreational types than there are us more serious players. They've decided that's the market that want to serve, not us.

So I don't think they'll lose all poker business entirely, it's just not going to look anything like a typical poker business. More like Zynga poker, or just another pit game.

 

[beardyian]

When someone has written to just play 'solid poker' that has always (imo) involved knowing or at least making a read on how others play.
So by just being a number instead of a person - this has taken the poker playing out of poker.

Or should we just start playing a numbers game instead?

 

[Pascal-lf]

the hypocrisy of saying that winning players are bad for the poker economy when bodog rakes more than most of its competitors is amazing. the only thing winning players are bad for is bodog's profits, because losing players play fewer rake-able hands

 

[BodogBecky]

I guess we cant hold this against Becky, as I dont think she makes the decisions(?)

But, Becky, you were always fast with answers, and now you are not. Is it because

a. you just dont have any?

b. you are overwhelmed at the negative response (but, seriously, was it not kinda a given?)

c. you are taking the complaints to a higher level and waiting to see if bodog want to remain a site players will go to?

Hey guys,

Apologies if you're feeling neglected, I didn't mean to make you feel that way at all! However, you are right, I have absolutely nothing to do with the decisions made at Bodog Network. My role is the Lead On-Site Reporter for CalvinAyre.com and the Fact Checker for Bodog Brand. I'm here to clear up facts for you guys and assist you if CS is unable to help to your satisfaction. I do appreciate your feedback though and I will pass it on to the Bodog Network Management. In the meantime, here's some words from the Bodog Network VP on why these changes in the software have been made and if you experience any issues with the software, please give CS a call, they will be happy to assist!

Jonas Odman on the Bodog Network Software Update

 

[dmorris68]

Thanks Becky, I realize your position and obviously mean to direct nothing personal to you. But I lost respect for Jonas Odman's position awhile go. He's the one I've been quoting as being hostile towards winning players, and he's not changing his tune.

In the poker forums (winning) players are furious which I can understand—like most predators they are not the best suited to look after an eco-system.

LOL.

He's also pretty unabashedly staking claim to the "net depositing player" which is a euphemism for losing fish who constantly reload.

 

[Dank Hugh]

I dont like the new changes for all the reasons previously stated.


just one more voice opposed

 

[dj11]

Along with winning at poker, we humans have this innate desire for glory. How can I be Gloriously Triumphant if no one will know? I can't. It is all part of the fun of poker.

If I win a tourney, no one will know, or believe me....no fun....the $$$ might be nice, but the whole experience will be as flat as sleeping.

And for the love of me, I can not imagine 3 or 4 drunk net 'depositers' deciding to blow $50 each some Friday night playing online at Bodog, where they will either have to drunkenly collude, or be bored to death by a general lack of enthusiasm and buddy boasting. The only way I can see that happening is with instant deposit, meaning instant.... a process that got FT into some pretty deep shit.

Law of unintended consequences highly suggests there will be no bodog come the March release of its MAC software. Either that or in a last ditch effort to save itself, it will revert to massively large freerolls,,,and lots of them. But I get the feeling that they might go the other way, removing even play money games cause 'they generate no profit'.

 

[beardyian]

If anyone wins a 'live' seat from bodog will they have to wear a bag or some kind of mask

maybe go as a number? lol

 

[brank]

Looks like Bodog is getting what they want. All the "regs" are making a mass exodus from their site. I guess time will tell if they're correct in that it will "increase player retention".

They are basically setting up an environment of bots and colluders vs "net depositors", aka the "fish". I dont really see how that is going to keep them around.. They're going to lose their money just as fast but instead of winning players getting the money it will be cheaters and house bots.

Solid plan for a good poker economy Bodog.

 

[Pascal-lf]

Thanks Becky, I realize your position and obviously mean to direct nothing personal to you. But I lost respect for Jonas Odman's position awhile go. He's the one I've been quoting as being hostile towards winning players, and he's not changing his tune.



LOL.

He's also pretty unabashedly staking claim to the "net depositing player" which is a euphemism for losing fish who constantly reload.

That website is just a front for Bodog which kinda pretends to be a news website imo

 

[dombsa]

Well,new bodog software looks much better than previous and its really pitty they are leaving US market next year.As US player I dont have many options to play poker on line for real money.I play cake poker,but they have slow traffic and I have to wait minutes for players to register SNG,still missing PS,FT.

 

[dmorris68]

That website is just a front for Bodog which kinda pretends to be a news website imo

It's Calvin Ayre's blog site, but when it comes to Bodog news, it's pretty much the source. Jonas Odman often posts or interviews there and that's where I've been pulling his quotes from and also learning about this Recreational Player Model that they've been touting for months now.

Based on his past interviews and comments, it should come as no surprise that they've done this -- but I guess in the back of my mind I thought surely they wouldn't it this far this fast. But now that they have, I feel even better about making a clean break from their site. I've never liked them, the only reason I kept them around and a few bucks in the account was for CC events and to play the occasional MTT ticket. Even the soft players haven't been worth dealing with the crap software and game selection. I've been much happier on Merge skins, and while they are slower to pay out, I've not had any problem withdrawing since Black Friday, so I'm not complaining.

 

[dmorris68]

Well,new bodog software looks much better than previous and its really pitty they are leaving US market next year.

/facepalm

They. Are. Not. Leaving. The. US. Market.

 

[LarkMarlow]

Predators unite!!!!!!!!!!! Down with the 'dog eco-system...um, the what?!

ec·o·sys·tem/ˈekōˌsistəm/
Noun:A biological community of interacting organisms and their physical environment.

 

[Marginal]

I posted a response to the article and its no surprise that everything needs mod approval.

Bodog, amazing.

 

[Makwa]

A few hours after the change I started posting comments on Calvins FB self-help page about the idiocy of this move, and got bounced from the comments... how do he do dat so fast??

Calvin on the beach: :boxing:
Bodog on the beach: :icon_geek
Players on the beach:
Poker industry on the beach:

 

[LarkMarlow]

I just can't get away from this predator thing. Predators are an intrinsic part of an ecosystem, which is actually sustained and able not only to survive but thrive because of their presence. Enter Man, who sees something of great value in the prey, so he wipes out the predator. Guess who must become the predator now?!

Moving right along, this absurd approach to marketing continues to baffle me. "Welcome to our new, improved poker room. There are no winners here, guaranteed!"

Another thing that annoys me to no end is that Bodog's statement provides some powerful fuel to our arch-enemies, the DOJ and anti-online poker folks. I can see the blown-up headlines now: "Major Online poker site declares that skilled and successful poker players are undesirable predators".

 

[Poker Orifice]

You'd think with the oppurtunity Bodog has had since BF that even a simpleton could make changes on that site that could easily double (triple?.. quadruple?) player traffic/volume. But.. nope. They choose to do the opposite, & pull off the ultimate fail.

 

[WEC]

Next up for Bodog Software Updates -- Anonymous Sportsbook Betting (for losing players).

College Basketball

#12328 +3 (-110)
#12329 -5 (-150)


Will reveal teams after completion of game...

 

[WVHillbilly]

Ohhhh, I'll put $10 on #12329.

 

[dmorris68]

Well we all know that winning sportsbook players, er, I mean, predators, are withdrawing players, taking money out of the sportsbook eco-system, which is a Very Bad Thing(tm).

ldo.

 

[JOEBOB69]

Next up for Bodog Software Updates -- Anonymous Sportsbook Betting (for losing players).

College Basketball

#12328 +3 (-110)
#12329 -5 (-150)


Will reveal teams after completion of game...

This actually made me laugh my ass off.

 

[Poker Orifice]

Next up for Bodog Software Updates -- Anonymous Sportsbook Betting (for losing players).

College Basketball

#12328 +3 (-110)
#12329 -5 (-150)


Will reveal teams after completion of game...

Just hope I'm cheering on the right team.... or not.

 

[BodogBecky]

Hey guys,

A few things:

The bodog BRAND NAME is leaving the US market at the end of the year. The company that owns and runs the bodog.eu software and operations (MMGG) will continue to operate as normal, just under a new brand name. The newly branded MMGG site will also be a part of the Bodog Network.

Also, Calvin's personal facebook page is not the place to share your feedback about the new poker software. Calvin has nothing to do with these changes- he licenses out the bodog brand name to other companies, similar to what Richard Branson has done with the Virgin brand name, + he has started his own media site CalvinAyre.com which I am also the Lead On-Site Reporter for.

Lastly, I can assure you that I am sending your feedback from the forums to the Bodog Network team so thanks for letting us know your thoughts, positive or negative!

Thanks,
Becky

 

[dj11]

/facepalm

They. Are. Not. Leaving. The. US. Market.

No, they are being ejected from and rejected by, the US market.