When to make a deal at the final table?

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Hello guys!

I never tryed or wanted to deal making at final trable but I was wondering in what kind of situtation would you propose a deal? If you ever did make a deal how was it?
 
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Hi usually the division occurs when there are three or four people left at the final table.but usually the window for the offer is opened when the final table is formed.I did not manage to divide many times-once I was the chip leader in a knockout tournament and agreed to divide the prize money was almost the same for the first and second place was given $ 160 each.In the end, I knocked out the remaining players and earned $ 540 with knockouts.The tournament was for $ 3.30.
 
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It's always fine to listen to numbers and talk deal. Typically you want your opponents to suggest it and be the ones trying to convince you :)

Whether you ultimately take the deal depends on:

** Skill. If you're up against very good players, it definitely makes sense to deal.

** The Numbers. If you can get paid more than the fair ICM value of your stack, that's a very good reason.

** Variance. Lastly, if you're playing for a large amount of money relative to your bankroll or life-roll, it's reasonable to lock something up if you get offered a reasonable deal.
 
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I had such a situation only 1 time and what does it mean when to conclude, here the room itself gives an offer for a deal at the final table, a window pops up and everyone must agree.
 
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Cash is King for some, others like the adulation.
A Deal is only for the $$$ not the title. You may get a better reward grabbing the $$$ and you could still win the tourney.
 
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Have taken a deal a few time in my life. Like Collen said you want to make sure the numbers are good and depending on the players you are against. Its always worth listening. I was offered a deal in a live tournament once that would have been a crime to not accept. If the players had actually looked at my stack and the fact the blind were about to hit me with a blind increase they should not have offered me the deal. got 1/4 the pot and it was nearly 2nd place money and I was dead meat.
 
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I have already shared the final prize with the other 1x finalist. And several times I ended up giving away the final prize for being tired of playing the tournament, during the long day
 
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To make a deal you put aside your ability and your luck to reach the final table, I find it a bit mediocre not to finish the battle. I would never make a deal before the start or at the final table. In some cases, friends who sign up for a tournament and then send their chips to those with more in that way become more difficult to win, but luck is not something we can handle at will.
 
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On 888 Poker deals are based on ICM, and the only choise for players is to accept or decline the numbers, which are calculated by 888 Pokers computer. I have regularly accepted deals when heads-up or 3-handed if:

1) I felt, that I had no obvious skill edge on the opponent(s)
2) The payjumps were significant to my bankroll
3) I wanted to end my session to get on with other tasks

As for point number 2 a reasonable way to look at it is, that if you are playing for a payjump of 100$ heads-up, you should be bankrolled for a 50$ heads-up SnG. Like maybe having a bankroll of 2.500$ (50 BI) or at least 1.500$ (30 BI). If you dont have that, then declining a deal means, you are taking unnessesary and unreasonable swings to your bankroll.

As for point number 3 it should be noted, that on 888 Poker money is not set aside for the eventual winner. So once a deal is made, players are basically only playing for the title, and its customary, that both players go all in preflop every hand, until its over. For me this has often been a main consideration in accepting deals. If I have already played for 7-8 hours, I am typically not in the mood to spend another 30-60 minutes on, what is essentially a 3-handed or heads-up SnG.
 
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I think I did it when there would have been an equal number of chips and my opponent and I had to spend many hours to find out who is stronger better to divide everything as it is in half.
 
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It depends on how the prizepool is but in principle I would say that you should talk about a deal among the last 3-4 players:)
 
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I would prefer to work out a save based on a chip chop (if I am big stacked) or ICM (if I am short stacked).
These two methods favor those chip sizes.
I would like to play for at least 25% of the money up top with the other 75% split up at the point of making a deal.
Has never happened to me, but it is what I would like to work out if I had the chance.
Not sure I would trust a deal though unless it was facilitated through the site/casino.
 
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I have made few deals, I remember 2, in the 1st I was a chip leader and everything started to go wrong and they were asking me for a deal and I accepted it because I did not feel that I could achieve it, in the 2nd I was the person who had the least chips and asked for a deal. They laughed, they told me they didn't want a deal and I won the tournament, I accept a deal only if I feel like I'm fighting a lot and I don't have a chance
 
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Hello guys!

I never tryed or wanted to deal making at final trable but I was wondering in what kind of situtation would you propose a deal? If you ever did make a deal how was it?



For me mostly 2-3 people (max 4) when the payjump is too big. Opponents are strong and you can't control the table.
 
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I have already made a deal in a $ 2.20 FT turbo tournament.
I only had 5bbs.
CL: 60bbs
Second: 40bbs
Below me was one with 1.5bbs.
In the agreement I got the third amount $ 80.00 more than if I took the third one.
In the next hand I left with KK and was allin paid by 2 players. I lost my hand and fell in fourth. I was happy! For me it was profitable.
But if I'm at the head of the table, I hardly accept an agreement.
 
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It works like this

I would prefer to work out a save based on a chip chop (if I am big stacked) or ICM (if I am short stacked).
These two methods favor those chip sizes.
I would like to play for at least 25% of the money up top with the other 75% split up at the point of making a deal.
Has never happened to me, but it is what I would like to work out if I had the chance.
Not sure I would trust a deal though unless it was facilitated through the site/casino.



Friend ... I don't know in other rooms but at pokerstars at the moment that all players click on the button to make a deal, a moderator from the site comes to mediate the deal (He only speaks in English)
At least those I saw were like that. Maybe if the members of the final table are only from a country ex: brazil a Brazilian moderator will come but I'm not sure about that. This moderator calculates the amounts and places in the chat balloon the amount that each player will earn if they accept the agreement. If one does not agree the game continues. If everyone agrees, an amount is reserved for the real winner of the tournament. I believe that the members of the table can make their proposals but the agreement will only be closed after the moderator places the amount that each player will receive in the chat and this is accepted by all.
 
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A few days ago I played in the Omaha hi / lo tournament, there were three of us at the final table, and we decided to divide the prize money, I agreed to the division because playing Omaha hi / lo together or three is a dubious pleasure, who played that understands, such a game will calmly drag on for three hours, the tournament was small, I did not want to play so long because of the small difference in the prize money.
 
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The final table of a large game basically has an agreement to deal. When everyone at the table agrees to make a deal, the game will be suspended in time, and then an ICM money table and a chip ratio table will appear. In most cases, everyone will choose icm.
 
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I haven't made any deals for the final one yet. I think when there are 2-3 people left and there you can already think how to divide them
 
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Trades are usually made with very high pay jumps to the top 3-4 and short stacks.
 
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Hi usually the division occurs when there are three or four people left at the final table.but usually the window for the offer is opened when the final table is formed.I did not manage to divide many times-once I was the chip leader in a knockout tournament and agreed to divide the prize money was almost the same for the first and second place was given $ 160 each.In the end, I knocked out the remaining players and earned $ 540 with knockouts.The tournament was for $ 3.30.


envious!!!
 
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I was just in one situation to do a deal. baunty bilder 44 $, l have won ticket and have amazing luck and come at final table, but everyone at the table knew I was a fish and they wouldn't make a deal. but my amazing luck has taken matters into its own hands. l was taken 2 place for 8000 $
 
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I’ve only been lucky enough to make a few FT in big MTT. I’ve only tried making a deal once and that was simply because I was tired and wanted to sleep. Knew I wasn’t going to play very good and just wanted it over with. Nobody else wanted to deal and I ended up 2nd so worked out well for me.
 
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Sure there's always a circumstance where you could consider a deal when it involves enough money that would be effective at increasing your bankroll - and for some that's the way to go.

Me personally, I don't do deals. I don't care if I'm 4/4 and they offer a chop - I typically play it out and let things fall where they may. When I make the FT, I secure ladders and play to win the tournament. Can't win if I'm chopping all the time. Plus, this gives us training and knowledge of how to improve our FT play. Anyhow, I just dont chop - im always out for the win no matter if it bites me in the ass and I bust sooner than I wanted to, or I accomplish what I set out to do.

It's totally fine to chop if that's what you want to do - just ensure it's a decent deal and you are being offered your fair share.
 
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