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So, I below are two situations where I think what I'm doing and my thinking might have some merit, but I'm not 100% sure.
1.
-Blinds: 500/1K/100, 10 min blinds, 9-handed
-Late into tournament, late reg is closed, ~20 players from ITM
-In BB with 10K after posting blinds
-UTG shoves for 12K,
-Folds to MP who reshoves for 15K
-Folds to CO who calls 15K
-Folds to me in BB with Q10s
-There is 44.4K in the pot.
-My (flawed) thinking is that there is a ton of money in the middle, I only have 10BBs left, and I need to make a move soon. Even though Q10s isn't a great hand, this is a perfect opportunity to call and quad up. If that happens, I boost my stack to ~40K, which puts me in a great spot to finish much deeper.
I'm so far off the money, that's meaningless if a bust out here. I think the risk is very much worth the reward at this point and if I fold, when am I going to get another opportunity to get my money in with a chance at a decent stack? If it happens when I'm down to 5-6BBs, doubling up isn't going to be much help. And if I fold here, then say bust out 1 orbit later when I shove for 6BBs, it makes no difference if I finish 20 spots from the money or 15 spots from it.
I think it's best to take that chance of busting out or quad'ing up at this point. Agree or disagree?
2.
-Blinds: 500/1K/100, 10 min blinds, 9-handed
-Late into MTT, late reg closed, 20 away from ITM
-In BB with 8BBs after posting
-4 players limp in before you, SB completes. Limpers' stacks range from 10BBs-30BBs
-In BB with 8-10s
-6.9K in the pot
-My (flawed) thinking is that this is a perfect spot to shove and pick up a lot of dead money. If I can pick it up uncontested, I can increase my stack to almost 15K, which gives me some breathing room. My opponent's haven't shown any strength by just limping in and I feel this is a perfect spot to punish the limpers. Even though 8-10s isn't the greatest of hands, it doesn't do too bad against some hands if I do get called. It's flipping against 22-77 and is has ~40% equity against hands like QJ, KJ, AQ, AK, etc. I'm only really behind high pairs, though I wont expect to see those given the preflop action. Also, given stack sizes, I'm forcing players to make a decision for either most of their chips or almost 25% of it this deep into the game.
Given my low BB stack, I probably wont last much longer and I need to make plays. With 8BBs, I just may have enough FE to pick up the pot, but I'm not hating it if I get called, unless I run into hands like A8 or A10. In situations like these, I feel that it's just as important to take advantage of key spots, even if you don't have a really strong hand.
So, while these 2 situations dont come up often, I've been taking advantage of them when they do when I'm short stacked. I know many times, I've busted out, but-like i said-it's not that big of a deal when I'm so far away from they money. Or even I'm near the money, min-cashing means very little to me. However, in the times that it does work, I know it's propelled me to finish much deeper in MTTs, helped me reach FTs, and win quite a few.
So, is my thinking flawed? Am I just getting my money in bad and getting extremely lucky? Though, luck is needed to win MTTs, right?
1.
-Blinds: 500/1K/100, 10 min blinds, 9-handed
-Late into tournament, late reg is closed, ~20 players from ITM
-In BB with 10K after posting blinds
-UTG shoves for 12K,
-Folds to MP who reshoves for 15K
-Folds to CO who calls 15K
-Folds to me in BB with Q10s
-There is 44.4K in the pot.
-My (flawed) thinking is that there is a ton of money in the middle, I only have 10BBs left, and I need to make a move soon. Even though Q10s isn't a great hand, this is a perfect opportunity to call and quad up. If that happens, I boost my stack to ~40K, which puts me in a great spot to finish much deeper.
I'm so far off the money, that's meaningless if a bust out here. I think the risk is very much worth the reward at this point and if I fold, when am I going to get another opportunity to get my money in with a chance at a decent stack? If it happens when I'm down to 5-6BBs, doubling up isn't going to be much help. And if I fold here, then say bust out 1 orbit later when I shove for 6BBs, it makes no difference if I finish 20 spots from the money or 15 spots from it.
I think it's best to take that chance of busting out or quad'ing up at this point. Agree or disagree?
2.
-Blinds: 500/1K/100, 10 min blinds, 9-handed
-Late into MTT, late reg closed, 20 away from ITM
-In BB with 8BBs after posting
-4 players limp in before you, SB completes. Limpers' stacks range from 10BBs-30BBs
-In BB with 8-10s
-6.9K in the pot
-My (flawed) thinking is that this is a perfect spot to shove and pick up a lot of dead money. If I can pick it up uncontested, I can increase my stack to almost 15K, which gives me some breathing room. My opponent's haven't shown any strength by just limping in and I feel this is a perfect spot to punish the limpers. Even though 8-10s isn't the greatest of hands, it doesn't do too bad against some hands if I do get called. It's flipping against 22-77 and is has ~40% equity against hands like QJ, KJ, AQ, AK, etc. I'm only really behind high pairs, though I wont expect to see those given the preflop action. Also, given stack sizes, I'm forcing players to make a decision for either most of their chips or almost 25% of it this deep into the game.
Given my low BB stack, I probably wont last much longer and I need to make plays. With 8BBs, I just may have enough FE to pick up the pot, but I'm not hating it if I get called, unless I run into hands like A8 or A10. In situations like these, I feel that it's just as important to take advantage of key spots, even if you don't have a really strong hand.
So, while these 2 situations dont come up often, I've been taking advantage of them when they do when I'm short stacked. I know many times, I've busted out, but-like i said-it's not that big of a deal when I'm so far away from they money. Or even I'm near the money, min-cashing means very little to me. However, in the times that it does work, I know it's propelled me to finish much deeper in MTTs, helped me reach FTs, and win quite a few.
So, is my thinking flawed? Am I just getting my money in bad and getting extremely lucky? Though, luck is needed to win MTTs, right?
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