The Scourge of JJ

[CDNMAN 42]

I know JJ is only a mild Premium hand however when one gets it twice in a row???
The first instance I was on the bubble only 5 players left...and then?

the second time I should have known better...ohj well bring on the QQ,

https://www.cardschat.com/replayer/724UTkJIb


https://www.cardschat.com/replayer/824UTluFe

 

[300HPGOD]

First hand is a pretty easy rip pre with 12 BBs. You arent deep enough to raise small and then play post and arent strong enough to want action so badly and min raise (as you might do with AA here). At this stack your only good option is to get it in and let everything else go fall as it may.

Second hand is good pre of course. Then when villain pot donks we have to ask ourselves what they are doing this with. Usually on a two suit board it is top pair scared of a check behind so I would generally fold there even if that is exploitable but even if you call and another over card comes you should see you are not in good shape facing another pot sized bet.

 

[fundiver199]

Hand 1
This hand was a standard "flip", where the chips had to go in preflop, and then someone will get lucky and win. The only non-standard part of this hand was your preflop raise size, which is frankly just weird. Not sure what you were trying to accomplish here, but next time just jam yourself rather than rely on the opponent to do it for you.

Hand 2
Here you opened JJ with 100BB effective stacks and got 3 callers. With an overcard on the board and someone leading out for full pot, this should have been a very easy fold. Even if the guy leading is on a wild bluff, you still had the other two guys left to act behind you. Each of them could also easily have a Q, in which case you are drawing almost dead with less than 10% equity.

 

[Luvepoker]

Actually Jacks are really easy to play in my opinion. There very strong but easy to walk away from.

1st hand was easy and you lost the flip as a favorite. Just remember 55 out of 100 time you win there on this positive EV hand.

Hand 2 was easy as well. 3 callers make it easy to getaway from. Najjah donks out Pot here and you have 2 players behind you. What did you put him on. Its not a super wet flop but he could easily have a king here. I can call here with 2 player yet to act i would fold a lot depending on the players tendency but would re-evaluate on the turn a lot if another player calls or he bets again. both fold and we go to the turn with 900 in the pot

Turn is a queen and he bets pot again and only has 750 left behind.This bet is 45BB in a huge pot. What are you beating here. You dead to a set and over pairs and 2 pair There is a double flush draw but would he be betting this big and strong after your call? He looks so committed and you have 80BB left in the stack. This is a good spot to fold and if he had just a draw so be it. My thinking on this one.

 

[beelzeebuub]

Jack attack (what I refer to as a pair of jacks) worked quite well from the button the otherday .. There was one 2 BB raise behind me and I upped the deal to 4BB... the small blind folded and the big blind called.. So with 3 to the flop, there was a rainbow with 9 high.no possible straight draw.. I happened to shove (yes a free roll not a cash game idea), and took down the pot.. The other incicent was that I had to open with jacks at a table full of loose cannons.. So rather than raise, I simply called.. one of the freerollers shoved from the BB and I decided to call.. the caller had AJ but I dodged the run out.. I almost folded.. When there is only one other player who shoves on a jack attack, I will generally call them if I am not at risk for my tournament life..

I know JJ is only a mild Premium hand however when one gets it twice in a row???
The first instance I was on the bubble only 5 players left...and then?

the second time I should have known better...ohj well bring on the QQ,

https://www.cardschat.com/replayer/724UTkJIb


https://www.cardschat.com/replayer/824UTluFe

 

[nuttea]

I know JJ is only a mild Premium hand however when one gets it twice in a row???
The first instance I was on the bubble only 5 players left...and then?

the second time I should have known better...ohj well bring on the QQ,

https://www.cardschat.com/replayer/724UTkJIb


https://www.cardschat.com/replayer/824UTluFe

Jacks are a fairly strong and vulnerable hand, so that's okay. At a 9-handed table, someone will have a pocket pair higher than jacks 12% of the time. So with deep stacks, don't be in a rush to go all-in with JJ. Sometimes it makes sense to raise with a call and try to catch the set, which will happen 11% of the time. Or play jacks carefully postflop, especially with overcards on the board. Calling is also the best solution if you opened with a raise and someone moved. In raising-re-raising pots, the jacks' power is greatly reduced. And if you 5-bet all-in and your opponent calls quickly, your hand is likely to be dominated.How to play pocket jacks postflop depends a lot on whether there are overcards on the board or not. If your raise was not rearranged preflop, the board is dry and no overcards came out, jacks are likely to be ahead of your opponents' range. Therefore, you can safely bet for value.

 

[poliaris747]

You are still trying to play with these starting hands, because after all, you may not lose every time, luck will be on your side.