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AQ - 1
A9 - 2
33 - 3
J7 - 4
 
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A9 suite = 1
AQ off = 2
J7 suit = 3
33 = 4
 
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So far 2 think the AQ off is the best starting.
I only suggest that because most starting hand cheats sheets present AQo in the top 7%, however A9s is listed as top 10%.

Of course it depends on position too.
 
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I'd always rather have a pair than not. Not sure how 33 isn't in first when it is the favorite vs any of the other hands. Pretty easy, 33, AQ, A9, J7. If you think otherwise, play a big pot with AQ and watch your stomach sink when the board is 2, 7, 9.
 
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A9s is dominated so it is worst by default.

33 is the next worst as it's up against 5 discrete overcards.

AQo is second best as it is missing an out and has to improve to beat the threes.

J7s is best as it can improve by hitting either card. I am betting for the sake of this puzzleit's suited-ness pushes it right over the edge to beat out the prettier AQo. Not to mention the miniscule boost it gets from being (barely) connectable.

That said... that's just the math. I would rather PLAY the AQ.
 
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Actually since AQ will split the pot with A9 sometimes... that gives it a little more gas... hmm It might be best... The main reason I picked J7 is this looks like a trick question. But if AQ is best J7 is definitely a close 2nd.
 
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A9s is dominated so it is worst by default.

33 is the next worst as it's up against 5 discrete overcards.

AQo is second best as it is missing an out and has to improve to beat the threes.

J7s is best as it can improve by hitting either card. I am betting for the sake of this puzzleit's suited-ness pushes it right over the edge to beat out the prettier AQo. Not to mention the miniscule boost it gets from being (barely) connectable.

That said... that's just the math. I would rather PLAY the AQ.

Actually I could go along with the values above. I wasn't thinking in the context of beating the cards. I was playing as if they were openers and I didn't know what the other players openers are.

So, I agree.
 
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1-AQ
2-33 in this multipot set maining are op)
3/4-J7 and A9 A9 is under domiantion, while J7 isnt, mayne even J7>A9 not sure
 
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I'd always rather have a pair than not. Not sure how 33 isn't in first when it is the favorite vs any of the other hands. Pretty easy, 33, AQ, A9, J7. If you think otherwise, play a big pot with AQ and watch your stomach sink when the board is 2, 7, 9.

## isn't in first because it is not a favorite against all three hands. Lets take a look at what Poker stove has to say:
A9 18.475%
33 26.090%
AQ 27.692%
J7 27.743%

I had a feeling the A9 may be low but I didn't think it was the worst.
 
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## isn't in first because it is not a favorite against all three hands. Lets take a look at what Poker stove has to say:
A9 18.475%
33 26.090%
AQ 27.692%
J7 27.743%

I had a feeling the A9 may be low but I didn't think it was the worst.

Yes, I agree that its not the favorite against all three, I don't believe that was the question. If you were matching those hands up individually, 33 is certainly the favorite.

Now that I actually looked, 33 is the clear favorite against A9 and AQ but is a dog against J7. I thought that was interesting.
 
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Jay must be asking a trick question. :)

Heads up 33 is best.
But if all 4 hands are All-In preflop, then J7s is best.
 
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33 - 4

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Yes, I agree that its not the favorite against all three, I don't believe that was the question. If you were matching those hands up individually, 33 is certainly the favorite.

Now that I actually looked, 33 is the clear favorite against A9 and AQ but is a dog against J7. I thought that was interesting.

i understand this but personally i rated hands taking in mind that you don't know the hand of others.
 
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I think
AQ - 42% -1
A9 - 27% -2
33 - 19% -3
J7 - 12% -4
 
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With a low bet:
J7 - 1 [due to flush and straight possibilities]
AQ - 2
33 - 3
A9 - 4

With a high bet:
AQ - 1
33 - 2
J7 - 3 [due to flush and straight possibilities]
A9 - 4
 
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no tricks :) just found it interesting while watching the wsop last week.
thought it would make a good quiz , here's how they rated them.
don't remember how to do a click to reveal thing so ....


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The revealed wsop percents include folded cards from other players as well as the 4 live hands.

It's a useless question in a vacuum.
 
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A9 suited = 1
AQ off = 2
J7 suited = 3
33 = 4
 
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