Prize Structure MMTs

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I'm planning to play my first non-freeroll MTT and ask myself where to start.
I noticed that different MTTs have different prize struktur, sosometime 10% of the starts are ITM, some times 20%.
What is the typical structure here?
 
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I'm planning to play my first non-freeroll MTT and ask myself where to start.
I noticed that different MTTs have different prize struktur, sosometime 10% of the starts are ITM, some times 20%.
What is the typical structure here?


It usually depends on the number of entrants. It is usually between 12 and 20%.
 
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This varies depending on the tournament, the most common is that the% of itm in the tournament is around 12-15%.
 
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So my assumption is as a beginner it's better to choose the 20% structure? 80% are easier to beat than 85% :)
 
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So my assumption is as a beginner it's better to choose the 20% structure? 80% are easier to beat than 85% :)

If cashing regularly is important to you then yes. And I think, there is something to be said for this as a beginner, since getting that winning feeling can help keep the motivation up :)
 
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[...] since getting that winning feeling can help keep the motivation up :)

Yep, beeing in the money means I have done somthing right (or I have a lucky day). Thats the reason that I'm also happy when winning 1c in a freeroll :smile:
 
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What site do you play on? 888 poker changed their structure and has more payouts than average, you just have to run deeper to get a decent return.
9man sit n go’s are a good way to go too - 1 in 3 win!
 
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I believe that it has to to do with the number of entries. I have seen it vary from 10% ITM to 25%, Some freerolls have a set number ITM so the percent in the money can be much lower. I played on yesterday that had over 600 players and only paid the top ten. So, that would be about the top 1.5% ITM.
 
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This structure may be different on different sites. But I recommend you play in tournaments where the number of prizes is about 25-30% of the number of players.
 
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Every site and tournament has different structures. Also something to consider too is if it just makes it into the next tier before registration closes, the eligible players going for ITM might be smaller. Ultimately it's up to you on what you prefer. More winners for a better chance to profit or less winners and bigger prizes if you get to the later stages of the MTT.
 
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Yep, beeing in the money means I have done somthing right (or I have a lucky day). Thats the reason that I'm also happy when winning 1c in a freeroll :smile:


I understand where you are coming from, and I am in total agreement with you, This has been my drive all along from the very first MTT I played. Winning even a small amount is a Victory whichever way you look at it,
My first cash in a Free-roll was around 32 cents and I was so proud of my achievement I took a screenshot and printed it off, It didn't matter to me that it would not pay for a cup of Coffee, but a Win is a Win.
I have won a lot more since that first cash, and played a lot of Pub League Games, winning places in many Regional Finals and even once qualifying for a National Final in Casino's all over the UK.
My driving ambition was not to become rich from Poker, but to get better and better at a game I enjoy, and even now I still get a buzz for cashing in any MTT no matter how big or small the prize might be, my last free-roll win was $2.50 So like you I must have done something right.
Good luck in the future, on and off the felt.

When the fun Stops, STOP!
 
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Just dont fall into I want to cash trap. There are players who are just happy to cash 25%+ of the time and forget the real money is in the top 3.
 
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I'm planning to play my first non-freeroll MTT and ask myself where to start.
I noticed that different MTTs have different prize struktur, sosometime 10% of the starts are ITM, some times 20%.
What is the typical structure here?

In general, people, on the contrary, complain that the prize money is "smeared". But the idea to smudge even more seems to me promising. Especially in kilopoles. Certainly not as much as yours and correct the numbers (make multiple tables). But the numbers are still depressing. Out of 10,000 people - take 6 !!! place and get almost 11 times less than the winner. Unfair - ((. These crashes in the pre-finals and early finals will soon ditch all our regs - hard blows to both nerves and bankroll.
 
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I believe that it has to to do with the number of entries. I have seen it vary from 10% ITM to 25%, Some freerolls have a set number ITM so the percent in the money can be much lower. I played on yesterday that had over 600 players and only paid the top ten. So, that would be about the top 1.5% ITM.

Every site and tournament has different structures. Also something to consider too is if it just makes it into the next tier before registration closes, the eligible players going for ITM might be smaller. Ultimately it's up to you on what you prefer. More winners for a better chance to profit or less winners and bigger prizes if you get to the later stages of the MTT.

Interesting topic and comments. I also think the percentage of players that get a percentage of the prize pool is directly associated with the buy-in amount.
Here is an example;

I regularly play one 500gtd event that costs $2.75 to buy into.
There is another 500gtd that runs daily - and this event is a 0.27 cent buyin. I do not play in this event very often. I prefer the 2.75 buyin event - mainly because their are 90% less idiots - that jam with any pair on the flop. Of course we want to play against these idiots - but when the field is 75% of these players - it makes NOT POKER - and more some kind of happy go lucky IDIOT bingo fest.
In the 2.75 500gtd - these players are poker players that play poker - not bingo. We will get on occasion some of the "special" helmet wearing players mentioned above - but they last about 3 orbits and have donated all their chips to the stronger player pool.

Back to the related topic though - the 27 cent event gets about 1000 runners in it daily and the money bubble is somewhere around 180th, with about a 3x return of 78 cents, with the top winner getting 16% of the prize pool which is about $80.00.

Compare that to the 2.75 buyin. which only gets about 350 runners on average. Stronger players but the field is approximately 1/3rd.
The payout doesn't start until about 50th place and the min-cash is essentially slightly over the buyin, but up top the winner is getting almost 18% of the prize pool - about 90 bucks.

So to reduce variance - the players have to pay more to enter - logical - but will have smaller field to go through - and they will get a larger cut of the prize pool up top.
 
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