IS this line OK? (Limped Pot)

[bianconi_10]

Usually my limping range is close to 0, but I'm starting to come along to the idea of expanding my limping range on these tables where everyone else is limping a lot. Not going crazy with limping, but just adding in hands like this one that flop well and are "strong" but not that strong (for example villain in this hand could limp w/ some better hands like {KQ, AJ, pairs}. Is this limp OK or is this a mandatory raise?

Anyone folding river? I don't see how I can, the only unblocked hand that makes much sense for a triple is {75} so V reps pretty narrow here, though not necessarily polarized, I'm basically at the top of my range here. and that's a great runout.


pokerstars - 600/1,200 NL - Holdem - 9 players

UTG+1: 186,431 (VPIP: 37.04, PFR: 3.70, 3Bet Preflop: 2.50, Hands: 81)
MP: 157,652 (VPIP: 34.57, PFR: 9.88, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 81)
MP+1: 48,002 (VPIP: 28.40, PFR: 6.17, 3Bet Preflop: 2.94, Hands: 81)
MP+2: 202,942 (VPIP: 34.29, PFR: 22.86, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 70)
Hero (CO): 88,158
BTN: 62,443 (VPIP: 16.33, PFR: 2.04, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 49)
SB: 97,048 (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
BB: 138,331 (VPIP: 21.52, PFR: 12.66, 3Bet Preflop: 3.13, Hands: 81)
UTG: 81,974 (VPIP: 14.81, PFR: 8.64, 3Bet Preflop: 2.63, Hands: 81)

9 players post ante of 120, SB posts SB 600, BB posts BB 1,200

Pre Flop: (pot: 2,880) Hero has Jd Qd

fold, fold, MP calls 1,200, fold, fold, Hero calls 1,200, fold, fold, BB checks

Flop: (5,280, 3 players) 4s Js 8c
BB checks, MP bets 2,400, Hero calls 2,400, fold

Turn: (10,080, 2 players) 6c
MP bets 6,000, Hero calls 6,000

River: (22,080, 2 players) 8h
MP bets 9,600

 

[eetenor]

Over limping

Usually my limping range is close to 0, but I'm starting to come along to the idea of expanding my limping range on these tables where everyone else is limping a lot. Not going crazy with limping, but just adding in hands like this one that flop well and are "strong" but not that strong (for example villain in this hand could limp w/ some better hands like {KQ, AJ, pairs}. Is this limp OK or is this a mandatory raise?

Anyone folding river? I don't see how I can, the only unblocked hand that makes much sense for a triple is {75} so V reps pretty narrow here, though not necessarily polarized, I'm basically at the top of my range here. and that's a great runout.


PokerStars - 600/1,200 NL - Holdem - 9 players

UTG+1: 186,431 (VPIP: 37.04, PFR: 3.70, 3Bet Preflop: 2.50, Hands: 81)
MP: 157,652 (VPIP: 34.57, PFR: 9.88, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 81)
MP+1: 48,002 (VPIP: 28.40, PFR: 6.17, 3Bet Preflop: 2.94, Hands: 81)
MP+2: 202,942 (VPIP: 34.29, PFR: 22.86, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 70)
Hero (CO): 88,158
BTN: 62,443 (VPIP: 16.33, PFR: 2.04, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 49)
SB: 97,048 (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
BB: 138,331 (VPIP: 21.52, PFR: 12.66, 3Bet Preflop: 3.13, Hands: 81)
UTG: 81,974 (VPIP: 14.81, PFR: 8.64, 3Bet Preflop: 2.63, Hands: 81)

9 players post ante of 120, SB posts SB 600, BB posts BB 1,200

Pre Flop: (pot: 2,880) Hero has Jd Qd

fold, fold, MP calls 1,200, fold, fold, Hero calls 1,200, fold, fold, BB checks

Flop: (5,280, 3 players) 4s Js 8c
BB checks, MP bets 2,400, Hero calls 2,400, fold

Turn: (10,080, 2 players) 6c
MP bets 6,000, Hero calls 6,000

River: (22,080, 2 players) 8h
MP bets 9,600

Thank you for posting.

Over limping is best when multiple players will be calling regardless of bet size and we can make a nut hand vs many players. IE Ax suited.

In this spot we have a loose player with little aggression. We want to isolate and control that player. Limping does none of those things. Limping also makes it impossible for us to define villain's range post flop. Is it KJ AJ J10 Js9s As8s 44 10s9s. river bluff river value?

We get no data from limping. We do get data from betting and raising. It is why you stated you do do it most of the time.

Hope this helps