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This is almost always a premium hand, right?
 
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negative ghost rider...this is an overplayed...outplayed move. many people limp with nothing and make this move with nothing.....at least these days
 
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It can go both ways. I've done this before to represent aces, but certainly you will see aces played this way as well.
 
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I think it's really (like most things poker related) player dependent. If you are up against someone who seems to be a very old school ABC nit, then it can certainly mean this. But there are many times when the limper can just view the initial raise as a squeeze play, especially if there were multiple limpers.
 
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negative ghost rider...this is an overplayed...outplayed move. many people limp with nothing and make this move with nothing.....at least these days

not my experience in micros, I always think they are over playing something but when it comes down to it 8 out of 10 times your screwed
 
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it total doesnt work. i find pushin all in at that point puts the force on to steal the blinds
 
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i dont like this move , i no think every moment is a premium cards , ^^
 
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Depends a lot on who you're against with and at what type and what part of a tournament.
 
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almost always. but most often it is the ace of the king and not a pair of aces . a pair of kings in the point guard position so more often.
 
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almost always. but most often it is the ace of the king and not a pair of aces . a pair of kings in the point guard position so more often.

I would agree with you that it is more often AK than AA but still, to my point, it is almost always a premium hand.
 
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I would agree with you that it is more often AK than AA but still, to my point, it is almost always a premium hand.

Someday you will fall opponent who would raises from UTG position with 22+
Often guys try to still pot or something in this case.
You think raise from UTG is enough to understand what hand opponent has? As for me, if I chip-leader at the table or something near, I will raise 3bb from UTG even with KTs, 66+ You ask WHY???

REASONS:

- If I get set, flush draw or 2 pair (provided no ACE on the board) I will play CHECK In all current cases. Than all opponents will think that I missed Ace or don't get something special and would make big raise or all-in with middle strong hand with the idea of double up without any calls.
 
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Someday you will fall opponent who would raises from UTG position with 22+
Often guys try to still pot or something in this case.
You think raise from UTG is enough to understand what hand opponent has? As for me, if I chip-leader at the table or something near, I will raise 3bb from UTG even with KTs, 66+ You ask WHY???

REASONS:

- If I get set, flush draw or 2 pair (provided no ACE on the board) I will play CHECK In all current cases. Than all opponents will think that I missed Ace or don't get something special and would make big raise or all-in with middle strong hand with the idea of double up without any calls.

I wasn't saying a raise from UTG, I was saying a limp re-raise from UTG. I've seen people limp-shove with 22+ though.
 
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it's more of a cash game strategy these days, limp-raising AK/JJ+ to more effectively isolate heads-up on tables that otherwise see an early position raise called in 5 spots, resulting in a second best hand far too often.

a similar dynamic may exist with tournaments, in which case a balanced early position limping range isn't the worst thing in the world. but limping anything pre-flop in a tournament is generally considered pretty awful these days and limp/raising AA (and AK for balance) UTG is something we did back in 2006.

if an opponent does it now, it may be strength. depends on the opponent.
 
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I love limp after big if someone raises i reraise 3bet, and sometimes they get on bait and think i have totaly ,,air''
 
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