How big of a mistake was this?

skin_ak · May 25, 2020

I'm not too familiar with these spots, but my gut is telling me I should be a lot tighter.

5 people remaining
top 4 get paid
I'm second in chips (14BB)
There are 2 short stacks at the table with 4BB each

Folds around to HERO in the SB. BB is chip leader.

HERO has K4o

Shoving looks to be about +0.73bb but because of all the short stacks and the fact we're on the bubble, is this just a fold?

Thanks

moshie · May 25, 2020

Why are you shoving and puting yourself at risk? The 2 short only have 4bb each.
And your hand K4 offsuit? What if the Big blind calls with an Ace or a better King?
Or if he has a pair pre flop? Your hand is not ahead in all these cases?
And if you are ahead and get called. Do you really want to take a 60/40 flip in this situation?

rmbmr · May 25, 2020

skin_ak said:
I'm not too familiar with these spots, but my gut is telling me I should be a lot tighter.

5 people remaining
top 4 get paid
I'm second in chips (14BB)
There are 2 short stacks at the table with 4BB each

Folds around to HERO in the SB. BB is chip leader.

HERO has K4o

Shoving looks to be about +0.73bb but because of all the short stacks and the fact we're on the bubble, is this just a fold?

Thanks

easy fold

ph_il · May 25, 2020

i assume this was plugged into icmizer to get the +.73 bbs? that's pretty close to being break even, so i can see jamming or folding in this situation. so, it would come down to how bb is playing.

if they're a really tight player that is folding a lot on the bubble, i lean more towards jamming as they're only calling with the top of their range facing a jam w/ 2 short stacks. so, k4 will be getting through majority of the time. if they're willing to defend their bb wider and call of jams wider, i'd lean more towards folding.

personally, i lean more towards jamming just to apply a ton of pressure on the bb because of the 2 short stacks. if stacks are near even, bb would have to call off much tighter in that spot meaning our jam has a better chance of getting through.

in the end, i don't think your jam is terrible at all but folding isn't a bad option either.