This is a discussion on Hand to discuss within the online poker forums, in the Tournament Poker section; Is someone else flats pre? And the flop once you flat?
partypoker - 25000/50000 NL (8 max) - Holdem
UTG: 8.79 BB (VPIP: 14.84, PFR: 11.02, 3Bet
Weird spot. With the bet, BTN only leaves himself 10 BBs. He is quite pot-committed after the flop bet, whether it is for value or to try and get you to fold a hand like you have is the question. In general, BTN opening range is going to be wide, so I might talk myself into a call on the flop..and folding turns if he continues and we don't improve. Tough though..vs that stack size on the BTN I think a 3 bet shove pre has to be profitable. Really depends on your opponent(who seems a bit aggressive). Even check-raising all-in on the flop vs stats like that seems fine. This is where I like to have notes..if we know this opponent to min raise his monsters off short stacks as opposed to jamming pre..we can easily fold. As played though, I'm check raising flop all-in. If he has a J, we have outs. I think folding is fine too..but we need a gameplan here. We are bleeding chips by calling with a short stack ourselves and then folding flops with second pair nut kicker. I'm either folding pre, 3 bet shoving pre, or calling and check raising the flop(my least favorite option).