Is flash-draw good for call all-in?

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I'm in SB having J9 hearts call, BB check, others folded. Flop AQ hearts, 9 clubs. BB is cheap leader, i have 11 BB, ante 1BB. 5BB in bank. I raised to 3.5BB. Man from BB go all-in. Why should i fold? Is flash-draw good for call all-in?
p.s. If i have time for thinking i can guess that man in BB have A with bad kicker like A3 or A5, thats why he check on preflop, so he goes all-in because his hand is dominating allmost all my calling range.
 
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I think at that stage of the game you have to give context. It's almost a perfect coin flip if he has any Ax. Not the best spot but if you're already itm this is a decent spot to make a last stand.
 
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With 11 BBs there's not much you can do, just go all in and hope for the best. Even if he is ahead, you have 9 outs for the flush and a few more for two pair and three of a kind. If you want to be conservative, you've got 11 outs and that's more than 40% chance of winning. With your stack, you're probably not gonna get another shot as good as this.
 
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I dont think this should be a question, with 11 bbs I think you should have shoved on the BB. With a 11bb stack its going to be very difficult to play post flop, and flush draws are usually better to bet with than call with(you lose the added fold equity). Down to J4s is a great shove there.
 
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Usually flush draws on the flop have become easy allins for most, but only expect to get there 35%. Most of the time you can use it as a good semi bluff. Also remember not all flush draws are created equal. Better to have flush draws with two overs and some straight draws.
 
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Plus your flush draw may be up against a better flush draw. Happens more often than one would expect.
 
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I'm in SB having J9 hearts call, BB check, others folded. Flop AQ hearts, 9 clubs. BB is cheap leader, i have 11 BB, ante 1BB. 5BB in bank. I raised to 3.5BB. Man from BB go all-in. Why should i fold? Is flash-draw good for call all-in?
p.s. If i have time for thinking i can guess that man in BB have A with bad kicker like A3 or A5, thats why he check on preflop, so he goes all-in because his hand is dominating allmost all my calling range.
i Thin call!:D
 
xbronk

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I think it's okay and I think the same as you have Ace with a mediocre kicker but I think it's a good decision in terms of hand and pocision:bath:
 
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I agree with TeUnit here you don't want to go to a flop with 11bbs , it's a standard open shove SBvsBB and the fact that you have J9 suited makes the play more than standard.

To answer your question without take into consideration table's dynamics, a flip is welcome here , I think you also have a backdoor potential for a straight. In same situations you need to look if you have some over cards , that will make easier your decision!
 
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I would call an all-in short stack any time in a tournament, when i hit the flop AND have flush draw. You have about 50% chance in most times. Even if opponent hits straight or set in the flop, you still habe better outs then playing preflop all-in with AQ against AK.
 
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If I were in your place, I would have made a pass, because the flush draw was not up to K and before J, and also because a flush draw is not the combination with which to call all inn, except in some individual cases. In general, there are a lot of factors to consider in this situation, you have described the situation incompletely, because it is difficult to give advice in this case.
 
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You should have gone all in pre-flop, probably. But since you are in the hand already, let's do some maths. You have to call 6,5BB to receive 27BB, in which case it would be profitable to make the call if you are winning 24% of the time. Assuming he has only one pair, you have 51% equity, more or less, so it's absolutely a call
 
Minus272c

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You should have gone all in pre-flop, probably. But since you are in the hand already, let's do some maths. You have to call 6,5BB to receive 27BB, in which case it would be profitable to make the call if you are winning 24% of the time. Assuming he has only one pair, you have 51% equity, more or less, so it's absolutely a call

I agree - better to push or fold preflop

Calling BB with 11bb stack, is essentially playing a J high hand out
of position, and is the worst option imo.

I also agree that when you do play it like that, a flush draw is more than you could
hope for. What else did you expect to flop.
With so low stack its auto all in on flop with every flush draw, any pair hit, any str8draw
once you play it like that ;)
 
bijan777

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If tour and is your life time tour
If can reby call and if not have reby option fold
If cash geam how much stak left
Befor all in
And depended to you bank roll
 
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I would say you should shove here..11 bbs from BTN..
I mean, you def don't have enough chips to play post-flop. And through this hand i think you understood why is like that.
As played, yes, you have to call there..you don't have much behind, and there is already good % of chips in pot comparing to your stack.
 
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Considering the fact that you have already invested most of your money in the bank, you have only one option left: go all-in !!!!
 
MolonAA

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with 11bb yes, and when you're giant against a smaller stack I think it's worth

 
Peppinotom

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You should have either shoved all-in preflop to steal the blinds, or at least check the flop. Why would you bet on a hand with nothing? Try to get the next card for free. As you bet and he shoved all-in you are forced to call, for sure. If you check and BB raises, you have another decision to make depending on the bet size.
 
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