Crazy Hand

Alucard

Alucard

Santoryu
Silver Level
Joined
May 7, 2017
Total posts
3,235
Chips
0
#Game No : 982030231
***** 888poker Hand History for Game 982030231 *****
$10/$20 Blinds No Limit Holdem - *** 25 06 2017 23:23:59
Tournament #105593164 $2.78 + $0.22 - Table #1 2 Max (real money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 4: MTN12345 ( $1,000 )
Seat 9: Alucard5077 ( $1,000 )
Alucard5077 posts small blind [$10]
MTN12345 posts big blind [$20]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Alucard5077 [ 9s, 9h ]
Alucard5077 calls [$10]
MTN12345 checks
** Dealing flop ** [ Ts, 6s, 8s ]
MTN12345 checks
Alucard5077 checks
** Dealing turn ** [ 6c ]
MTN12345 checks
Alucard5077 checks
** Dealing river ** [ 7s ]
MTN12345 bets [$40]
Alucard5077 raises [$980]
MTN12345 calls [$940]
** Summary **
MTN12345 shows [ 3c, As ]
Alucard5077 shows [ 9s, 9h ]
Alucard5077 collected [ $2,000 ]


Ace flush vs Straight flush
Just the beginning of the game. 5th or 6th hand
 
No1eJoker

No1eJoker

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
May 21, 2017
Total posts
1,877
Awards
14
Chips
0
Amazing, I remember I had a similar situation Ace vs Straigh flush.
 
GiGiCat

GiGiCat

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Jun 20, 2017
Total posts
191
Awards
1
Chips
4
Texture

Preflop it was folded to small blind, (you I presume) that had pocket pair against the BB that unless put to a decision will check with anything as he/she has a wide range of hands.
As it was folded to SB preflop a raise would have been more effective, not necessarily to collect the BB but but for the Continuation bet on the flop
On the flop a highly coordinated board came out, with a serious flush, straight flush and a straight came out. Giving both players a scare, even though SB is out of position with a pocket pair, there is only one over card on board, and 4 spades of higher value. A continuation bet here, I believe to be the best play.
The Turn shows the board a pair, another scare card for both players, but if SB had continuation bet the flop a value bet here may have scared the BB blind off and allowed the SB to rake the pot.
The River card makes a 4 card board flush, (nasty little creature), the SB has the 5th largest flush possible as the J,Q,K, and A are all still out there, with no bets from either player on flop, or turn there is nothing to scare either away at this point. There are many hands in the BB's range that would beat the SB, such as Js, Qs, Ks, As, 6/10, 6/8, 6/7, which is too many hands to go all in against... in my opinion at any rate.
Also if a continuation bet had been played on the flop, and then again on the Turn a small value bet on the river may have been called but SB would still be in the game with may BB left in his/her stack.
Regards,:)
 
lourivalveras

lourivalveras

Enthusiast
Silver Level
Joined
Apr 18, 2017
Total posts
65
Chips
0
Nice hand review Gigicat. Thats what i think every time i open the CC App to read the posts. Please dont stop...i think the CC is the best way to share knowledge.
 
Miguel Chacon

Miguel Chacon

Visionary
Silver Level
Joined
Jun 15, 2017
Total posts
824
Awards
5
VE
Chips
21
wow ! cool hand I'm still waiting for my first straight flush my maximun hand have been only Poker till now only two months playing :D
 
J

John Bor

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Mar 6, 2017
Total posts
383
Chips
0
This is the essence of this game. You play a lot of time, but that it is just lucky. Getting such a combination is difficult, because there are many factors that could prevent you from getting it. But judging by your description, the opponents did not have strong combinations, so you had the opportunity to assemble Straight flush
Therefore, there is the factor of luck and that is why you get a lot of money:D:):)
 
C

chavi

Rising Star
Bronze Level
Joined
Jun 26, 2017
Total posts
20
Chips
0
damn nice hand. but i would have made some action before the river
 
S

Supmargy

Visionary
Silver Level
Joined
Jun 3, 2017
Total posts
559
Awards
1
Chips
1
Holy... That's some tilting stuff for the other guy. I'd stop playing for a couple of hours after that!

@John Bor
Alucard had a strong hand, and was winning all along. I probably would have bet a bit on flop and turn, because he had a backdoor straight and backdoor flush draw, while holding a decent pair.
That could have scared the opponent away, but at least he would have secured the pot. It was a really risky play in this case to just check each turn, since the other guy had backdoor flush draw with A.

The more I think about it, the more I would argue Alucard should have bet earlier. Luck is, like you said, involved in the game, but we try to reduce it to a minimum. Although sometimes it's really great, like in this instance.
 
Alucard

Alucard

Santoryu
Silver Level
Joined
May 7, 2017
Total posts
3,235
Chips
0
Holy... That's some tilting stuff for the other guy. I'd stop playing for a couple of hours after that!

@John Bor
Alucard had a strong hand, and was winning all along. I probably would have bet a bit on flop and turn, because he had a backdoor straight and backdoor flush draw, while holding a decent pair.
That could have scared the opponent away, but at least he would have secured the pot. It was a really risky play in this case to just check each turn, since the other guy had backdoor flush draw with A.

The more I think about it, the more I would argue Alucard should have bet earlier. Luck is, like you said, involved in the game, but we try to reduce it to a minimum. Although sometimes it's really great, like in this instance.

I would've bet. But he was a tight player. betting on the turn and the flop would've likely to scare him away. Plus it was the start of the game so it's better to bait the opponent into betting & the check raising.
 
S

Supmargy

Visionary
Silver Level
Joined
Jun 3, 2017
Total posts
559
Awards
1
Chips
1
I would've bet. But he was a tight player. betting on the turn and the flop would've likely to scare him away. Plus it was the start of the game so it's better to bait the opponent into betting & the check raising.

yeah but scaring him away would be the right thing to do in 95% of the cases right? (I might be wrong here, but that's the way I currently feel.)

You gave him time to hit a better flush, an ace, a nine ... betting would secure you the pot. You got really really lucky to hit the SF.

Were you ready to fold any other flush?
 
Alucard

Alucard

Santoryu
Silver Level
Joined
May 7, 2017
Total posts
3,235
Chips
0
yeah but scaring him away would be the right thing to do in 95% of the cases right? (I might be wrong here, but that's the way I currently feel.)

You gave him time to hit a better flush, an ace, a nine ... betting would secure you the pot. You got really really lucky to hit the SF.

Were you ready to fold any other flush?

yes. I guess so. But once again start of the game. Blinds weren't that high & he was playing very tight. I counted the cards twice before shoving.
 
GiGiCat

GiGiCat

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Jun 20, 2017
Total posts
191
Awards
1
Chips
4
yes. I guess so. But once again start of the game. Blinds weren't that high & he was playing very tight. I counted the cards twice before shoving.
At the start of the game every player is unknown till they are not. Therefore a default play should have over ridden any desire to ship the chips. If the hero (you) bet the flop or turn and got raised a fold would have been appropriate with the board such as it was.
I find it best to think of the long run at all times when deciding whether or not to ship. I personally avoid shipping when stacks are deep, and only ship with deep stacks if my pocket cards and board show only one or possibly two hands that can beat my hand.
Short stack play is a different monster and one must seize opportunities when they are presented.
 
Alucard

Alucard

Santoryu
Silver Level
Joined
May 7, 2017
Total posts
3,235
Chips
0
At the start of the game every player is unknown till they are not. Therefore a default play should have over ridden any desire to ship the chips. If the hero (you) bet the flop or turn and got raised a fold would have been appropriate with the board such as it was.
I find it best to think of the long run at all times when deciding whether or not to ship. I personally avoid shipping when stacks are deep, and only ship with deep stacks if my pocket cards and board show only one or possibly two hands that can beat my hand.
Short stack play is a different monster and one must seize opportunities when they are presented.

Yes you are right. I agree the play wasn't that great in the entire hand. But as the situation was after the river, he thought he had the the best hand & I took advantage over it.
But I agree the play wasn't great.
 
GiGiCat

GiGiCat

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Jun 20, 2017
Total posts
191
Awards
1
Chips
4
Yes you are right. I agree the play wasn't that great in the entire hand. But as the situation was after the river, he thought he had the the best hand & I took advantage over it.
But I agree the play wasn't great.
Please don't see this as being played wrong or "play wasn't great", it would benefit everyone if we viewed our loses as a lesson, in so doing we never lose.
 
jimmy andres

jimmy andres

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Nov 23, 2016
Total posts
243
Chips
0
Hi, you were lucky that your hand was completed on the river, but in that hand you had more chances to win, well it was well played and you got a good pot.
 
T

Thenightrain

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Jun 3, 2017
Total posts
313
Chips
0
I wonder if the other player should have folded when you shoved?

In a casino he'd have more time to think as opposed to an online time limit.

Would someone shove with a K or Q flush, I'd suggest unlikely. Would have been a tough lay down and hindsight is golden.

Was it a snap call or did they think it through first?
 
Sergio_uy

Sergio_uy

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Jun 17, 2017
Total posts
254
Chips
0
Nice hand and nice pot for you.

Already had information of the player?
 
GiGiCat

GiGiCat

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Jun 20, 2017
Total posts
191
Awards
1
Chips
4
Please don't see this as being played wrong or "play wasn't great", it would benefit everyone if we viewed our loses as a lesson, in so doing we never lose.

oops didn't see the straight flush, still never see things as loss ,even if they are wins:D
Regards,
GiGiCat
 
Alucard

Alucard

Santoryu
Silver Level
Joined
May 7, 2017
Total posts
3,235
Chips
0
oops didn't see the straight flush, still never see things as loss ,even if they are wins:D
Regards,
GiGiCat

your whole review was based on me shoving without a straight flush? :D
come on man! who would've shoved a 9 to a 4 board flush?
 
GiGiCat

GiGiCat

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Jun 20, 2017
Total posts
191
Awards
1
Chips
4
it's a big ocean

there are plenty of fish in the sea. Did't see the 4 board flush till I put my glasses on :), thought it was just a straight.
However it doesn't change the review all that much. It was still checked all the way to the River.:(
 
Starting Hands - Poker Hand Nicknames Rankings - Poker Hands
Top