This is a discussion on Bubble time on small blind with Kings within the online poker forums, in the Tournament Poker section; Hey guys, hereís the situation that I have faced yesterday, need suggestion from you guys.
Blind 500/1000 with ante
60 places cash and less than 70
man in my situation I analyzed if the tournament pays itm well and if it was worth it I pushed all in giving strength to my KK and if he had AA or AK he would increase his bet. right or even with QQ JJ he would do that.
That an unfortunate bit of luck there, especially after probably playing for a few hours. Iíd be definitely calling in this situation with KK. The vast majority of the time you will be far ahead. Thereís a good chance heís trying to push you off the pot thinking you wonít risk all your chips this close to the bubble. Him having JJ or QQ or even something like AQ is very likely. Him jamming there actually makes AA less likely. Youíd fold most hands and he wouldnít get all your chips like he would if he just called your 3 bet. Just my opinion. You did right and better luck next tournament.
It depends on how important the cash is to you but I don't think I can come up with many reasons to fold this. To consider it the player would have to be a less than 10 VPIP player and only then would I even consider it much less actually fold the Kings. I do think we can think about this spot logically and say the villain knows the bubble is near too and should not want to risk their stack unless they have a very strong holding. When they 4 bet jam us I think his range is JJ+ and AK suited. I dont even think he is re jamming with AK off here. So yes, when we see this we know we could be up against aces but we also could be up against JJ, QQ and AK suited all of which we have destroyed. We are just beating too much of his range here to be folding. Bad luck that this happened and of course had to happen right on the bubble to make us feel extra screwed.
In your position i don't 3bet here, both of you are deep stacked +50bb, just call and see the flop. if an Ace hit it's an easy fold. if it's an uncordinate board just check raise the flop to get the information. You just give him the oportunity to shutdown the action preflop and risking your stack near the bubble.
In my opinion there are only two cases when I roll AA or KK preflop - this is satellite if you have enough chips !!! And (in some cases) the final table - if in front of you more than two players went all-in !!!
Don't fold it. People pay to much attention to the bubble. Usualy last places are paid very low so your goal with medium stack should be to accumulate as much chips to aim at winning the tournament. I would consider playing very safe with very small stack which gives me slim chances to come back and in that case even small money would be nice. With a stack like that your goal should be to agressively cumulate more and more chips. If you are out with such a stack it doesn't really matter if you take no money or just very small amount because your equity at that stage was much higher anyway.
Let me explain that with some numbers. Let's say the first place pays 1000$, 10th pays 100$ and the bubble pays 1$. You have 10th stack so you should expect on average to earn 100$ from this tournament. But if you manage to be 9th or 8th you would gain another 50$ or so. Now you want to fold KK which means significantly change the gamestyle and reduce your equity just to secure 1$? Playing this way will probbably move your expected position to 11th, 12th or so so you virtually lose 10$ maybe 20$ to seucre that 1$. This is a big mistake which fortunately people make. You should exploit that playing agressively and stealing a lot of pots from scared players who want to secure just that 1$.
In a tournament with normal payout structure it's never profitable to secure some small earnings. Alway play to win that tournament at all costs. I would only consider folding KK if I had like 3BB , only few people left to blow the bubble and with my slim chances to win anything at all, just waiting for the lowest pay could be profitable at this stage. But still I doubt I would fold them...
People will push bigger stacks more frequently on bubble to exploit players just trying to cash. I do not fold KK in this spot and it is just a cooler that he happened to wake up with AA here. Say he has QQ and you hold, you have 100 bbs going into bubble bursting and an opportunity to build towards final table. Gotta accumulate chips and this is a great spot to do that most of the time.
No definitely not a fold. Unless you think he ONLY ever has AA here and never rips it in with KK, QQ, AK, or possibly just an exploitative bluff knowing you will be tighter on the bubble. Besides, you are talking about a min cash, vs a chance to build a big stack and move into position to make a final table.
I don't think you can really consider folding there. It probably just feels way worse since you were close to the money, but that hand went down exactly how most would hope it would. You just got unlucky that he had aces.
It actually depends on the type of player in question and their stats. But in general, I would call the allin without any doubt. There is not much to think about, and what you have to take into account is if our objective is to do ICM or if we are going for the tournament. It is a spot that is favorable to us in most cases and in the case of winning, we would be in a very good position to face the final phase of the tournament.
It would certainly be a shame to fly out with pocket kings against aces 10 people before the prizes.
In general, if getting into the money in this particular tournament does not affect your BR in any way, then I would push.
Again, it all depends on the opponent (nit, aggressive, fish), the size of his stack over the whole table (if he is the largest, then it is clear that he will put pressure on the dough opening any two).