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Roger1960
Legend
Silver Level
Good idea...
Also I treat it like any other game, something about betting makes it different. I play a lot of other card games, I pay more attention to how many times the computer beats me and the other way around. Even scrabble when the computer gets an impossible word.
I have conditioned myself into a lot more restraint, easier said than done. I play with play chips and I will purposely not play a single hand and just watch. Then I will play a couple of hands and none for a set amount.
I try to get as many chips as I can with hopefully the best hand, and fold the rest.
Also I treat it like any other game, something about betting makes it different. I play a lot of other card games, I pay more attention to how many times the computer beats me and the other way around. Even scrabble when the computer gets an impossible word.
I have conditioned myself into a lot more restraint, easier said than done. I play with play chips and I will purposely not play a single hand and just watch. Then I will play a couple of hands and none for a set amount.
I try to get as many chips as I can with hopefully the best hand, and fold the rest.
teepack
Legend
Bronze Level
Tilt is not caused by one hand. If you play great until you suffer one bad beat, you need to rethink why you play poker and set more realistic expectations. It's not skill when you hit a two-outer on the river to beat someone, and it's not luck when they do it to you. It's just poker, dude. The sooner you realize that, the better off you'll be.
Evan Jarvis
Legend
Platinum Level
Here is the long term solution to the problem
The short term solution is to take some deep breaths, set a positive reframe and focus on what's good in your life and the game, take your attention away from what's bothering you, let it go, whatever it is, if it wasn't bothering you before it's probably not all that important.
The mind likes to fixate on the bad or the mistakes, but it just needs a little coaxing in the right direction
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ph_il
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Silver Level
For the most part, bad beats are never as bad a people think they are. For example if you have QQ v AK, all in preflop, and board runs out x-x-x-x-A, is that a bad beat? No, because you already know that this is a 50/50 coinflip and the A hitting on the river doesn't change it's preflop equity of winning 50% of the time. It's already factored in numerous ways that AK can beat QQ and an A hitting on the river is one of those ways. Yes, it might only have a 5% to hit on the river, but again, that's already factored into it's preflop equity.
Does it sting when the A hits the river? I'm sure it does for a lot of people but, if you just take step back an look at the bigger picture, AK is still winning 50% of the time no matter how the board runs out. Another way to look at it, instead of QQ is losing to AK 50% of the time is 'the board is running out in AK's favor 50% of the time.'
The same is said for any other all in preflop hand v hand situations. Once you know hand v hand equity and you understand that the odds of it the board running in villain's favor is already factored in, you can work on just letting it go. In all-in preflop situations, hand v hand equity is either 50/50, 60/40, or 80/20. The 'worst' of it is a villain winning with 20% equity preflop, but that's still just 1/5 of the time if you really break it down to it's basic form. Is losing 1/5 of the time really worth getting tilted over? I don't think so.
Of course, AIPF is not the same as hand v hand situations that are played on each street. With AIPF, you know you're seeing the river but if there is still betting to be done on each street, then it's a bit different as a river isn't always seen. I'm sure that most that complain about losing with AA don't factor in times they won with it uncontested, or when they got villain to fold a better hand, or when they got lucky when they were behind. You can't control what a villain does and you can't control how a board runs out, but you can control if you're you're making more +EV decisions than not. Sometimes being able to let a big hand go when continuing is -EV is a victory in itself. And sometimes you can do things perfectly and get in as huge favorite and still lose. As long as on opponent has some equity, they have a chance to win it. Luckily, the less equity, the less often they'll win but if you find an opponent that's willing to risk it all for, say 5% equity, that's not a bad thing at all. Remember, if there were no bad beats and everyone played perfectly, you'd never make any money off of your big hands.
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In the long term, as long as you try to make mostly +EV decisions and you're getting your money in good, you'll profit. You're guaranteed to lose sometimes, but that's just how the game goes. The sooner you get used to it, the sooner you can let can let these 'bad beats' go and not let it bother you.
Does it sting when the A hits the river? I'm sure it does for a lot of people but, if you just take step back an look at the bigger picture, AK is still winning 50% of the time no matter how the board runs out. Another way to look at it, instead of QQ is losing to AK 50% of the time is 'the board is running out in AK's favor 50% of the time.'
The same is said for any other all in preflop hand v hand situations. Once you know hand v hand equity and you understand that the odds of it the board running in villain's favor is already factored in, you can work on just letting it go. In all-in preflop situations, hand v hand equity is either 50/50, 60/40, or 80/20. The 'worst' of it is a villain winning with 20% equity preflop, but that's still just 1/5 of the time if you really break it down to it's basic form. Is losing 1/5 of the time really worth getting tilted over? I don't think so.
Of course, AIPF is not the same as hand v hand situations that are played on each street. With AIPF, you know you're seeing the river but if there is still betting to be done on each street, then it's a bit different as a river isn't always seen. I'm sure that most that complain about losing with AA don't factor in times they won with it uncontested, or when they got villain to fold a better hand, or when they got lucky when they were behind. You can't control what a villain does and you can't control how a board runs out, but you can control if you're you're making more +EV decisions than not. Sometimes being able to let a big hand go when continuing is -EV is a victory in itself. And sometimes you can do things perfectly and get in as huge favorite and still lose. As long as on opponent has some equity, they have a chance to win it. Luckily, the less equity, the less often they'll win but if you find an opponent that's willing to risk it all for, say 5% equity, that's not a bad thing at all. Remember, if there were no bad beats and everyone played perfectly, you'd never make any money off of your big hands.
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In the long term, as long as you try to make mostly +EV decisions and you're getting your money in good, you'll profit. You're guaranteed to lose sometimes, but that's just how the game goes. The sooner you get used to it, the sooner you can let can let these 'bad beats' go and not let it bother you.
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twiztedtony
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Conditions are not a +EV situation atm. With the rona and other personal matters. It mostly stems from personal intamte relationships that cause 98 percent of my tilt. The other is bad play.
manolo salazar
Rock Star
Silver Level
Tell me something. What happened when you don't have a "joint" or someone to talk.
You will get more desperate because you don't have a traditional tilt breakers to help you.
First, you have to accept that poker is cruel most of the time and the variance is a one click of you. It could be good or bad but is there.
At the moment that you got a bad beat don't try to punish the guy who was lucky instead of this you have to inject logic and take notes about how he played that hand and take chips for m him in future hands.
Remember that you play poker because you love the game and when you love something that you do , doesn't have to be painful or traumatic.
Remember not always we are going to win . So, tomorrow will be a better day to Play.
Do meditation.
Practice yoga .
Work out in your mindset . In the long term you will get rid of this issues.
jovan123
Enthusiast
Silver Level
You have to realize that it is going to happen from time to time I always try to eat well and exercise and I really find meditation really helps me ..always try to breath and be as calm as possible when a bad beat hits ...sit out..leave the room maybe see the kids for a minute utilize what ever resources or maybe a friend to hear a friendly voice and realizing that your most likely going to see them happen from time to time especially with the amount of hands you play online....and usually the river is where you get it worst