All in Preflop while deep

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In micro stakes I often see players shove preflop while deep (80 bb+) with big pairs AA, KK, QQ.

I don’t see a lot of value doing this, usually you’re only going to pick up the blinds, or lose when they shove with QQ and run into AA or KK.

But, what I see happen more often is that they shove with QQ or KK and get called by AK, AQ, AJ and the A hits on the river and they lose. Where if they had just used a standard raise pre then c-bet they probably take it down there or may need one more bullet in the turn, assuming Ax didn’t pick up a good draw.

I just don’t see a lot of upside, yet see this happen all the time. Usually only better hands can call or someone willing to gamble with a good drawing hand and you’re allowing them to see all 5 cards.
 
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All in pre flop is a powerfull bet.I always get afraid when I go all in pre flop.
 
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the micro-limit game contains a lot of crazy players, who can't (they can't) wait and play gradually to increase your pot for a late game in the tournament. These are not the mistakes of the players, this is the style of the game. They can lose up to $10 in 10 tournaments (after preflop all-in), but in 11 tournaments they will get an advantage at the start. I think these are players, who earn little money and they are not interested in poker as a game, because when they want to play a tournament, they turn on the roulette mode (casino) whether they are lucky or not..

It is not easy to sit at the same table against them, but this is part of the game in online poker and it is very difficult to avoid it without going higher in the limits. I think a good suggestion - is to avoid this and not give in to the desire to quickly multiply or fly out, they are waiting for this ;)
 
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---------------------------------Hi!:ciao:--------------------------------
On microlemites, monsters often lose to fish with garbage hands -they just play the lottery.Therefore, at the initial stage, it is optimal to stay one - on-one and have increased chances.At first, I hated AA in general-because of it, I lost in 70% of cases.
 
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You gave the answer to your question yourself, this all happens at micro-limits because people at these limits can afford to play this money b-pro and do not think about the strategy of the game and, accordingly, players who are beginners play at these limits.
 
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Like other repliers mentioned, this happens more frequently in the lower stakes because there is less on the line if they lose it all. Some people at the lower stakes just want to play for fun without taking it seriously (even though there is actual money at stake). The higher the stakes, usually the higher quality of play you'll see.
 
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getting it in with 80+ bbs preflop is a bit absurd, but i can see it happening under the right circumstances.

getting it with with a big stack, say 40-50 bbs isn't that uncommon. it might seem a bit silly to some but, in a given situation, it might be the best play to maximize value for a hand.

for example, lets say i have kk, i open and an opponent 3 bets me large. we have 50 bbs effective. well, if i think my opponent is willing to call jam with their range, then getting it in preflop is going to better than going to a flop. what if they have 88 or ak? i don't want to give them the chance to fold on a flop if they miss and i lose out on value. i'm also not worried about my opponent calling with a/x and hitting an ace either. if my hand > their call range and i think they call in that spot, then losing in that spot is meaningless. less say they they have 35% equity to win, i still come out ahead 6/10 times in the long run. i want our stacks in the middle for a huge 100+ bb pot when i'm winning 6/10 times, not giving my opponent a chance to get away cheaply and i lose out on a ton of value.
 
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don't turn A A into garbage on micro-limits, this is what works, the guys play uninhibited and will kill with any garbage
 
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In micro stakes I often see players shove preflop while deep (80 bb+) with big pairs AA, KK, QQ.

I don’t see a lot of value doing this, usually you’re only going to pick up the blinds, or lose when they shove with QQ and run into AA or KK.

But, what I see happen more often is that they shove with QQ or KK and get called by AK, AQ, AJ and the A hits on the river and they lose. Where if they had just used a standard raise pre then c-bet they probably take it down there or may need one more bullet in the turn, assuming Ax didn’t pick up a good draw.

I just don’t see a lot of upside, yet see this happen all the time. Usually only better hands can call or someone willing to gamble with a good drawing hand and you’re allowing them to see all 5 cards.

Welcome to micro stakes poker. It seems that you are thinking about the poker hand in full, not just the 2 cards you own. This gives you an edge compared to total player pool. Just stay aware, and realize the best way to move forward is to valu bet villains relentlessly, don't be a calling station. People are not balancing with the right amount of bluffs, and then fold and valu bet some more :D Good Luck
 
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