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hello
SNGs 6 max
Hyper o turbo????
 
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In hyper u have 500 chips (pokerstars) so u need stack early, in turbo 1500 chips u don't need go all in but u should play litller wide range. I am not sure what was the question:p
 
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Play both and see which one you prefer..
 
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It really all comes down to what you can play and win. Each one has a different strategy.
 
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It really depends on your experience in SnGs. I'd recommend just normal turbos for now if you're new because the hyper turbos are just short stack play and require a lot of ICM decisions and your short stack play has to be quite good. That said at the lowest limits, people make far to many mistakes so you can get away with mistakes yourself more where you can easily beat the micros.
 
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In hyper need very deep bankroll +200 BI, because very big varience, in hyper 100 BI enough...follow only bankroll management , if not - easy to really lose everything,,
 
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In hyper need very deep bankroll +200 BI, because very big varience, in hyper 100 BI enough...follow only bankroll management , if not - easy to really lose everything,,

This is really important to know, thanks i am going to try some hyper these days :)
 
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This is really important to know, thanks i am going to try some hyper these days :)
I made little mistake :) Сorrectly +200 BI for hyper, +100 BI for turbo and +50 BI for normal...
 
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For me a turbo tournament is a mix between slow and fast. Didnt take much thought, didnt it?
You can still use your skill assets here, but it goes way faster than a regular tournament. You got a better chance to win here, even though it goes faster.
In hyper-turbos the part that will get you farthest is luck, by far. The whole part of the game is push or fold and if youre not lucky enough to get good hands, or you are getting ones but dont hit the community cards, you will be screwed. Usually those kinds of tournaments require much more buy-ins than a normal tournament would, since it all becomes luck, other than maybe I dont know, the final table? But to get to there you need to take lots of risks.
So the basic strategy - wait for cards and push everything - aggressive. Multitabling at this kind of tournaments should be more profitable.
 
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Dont play hypers :) more luck than skill in those...

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These hyper turbo tournaments are very exciting. I like it when the blinds move up every 3 minutes.
 
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tournament turbo, look for one that does not have a large number of enrolled, if you don't have time to be many hours connected
 
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Imo these can be super profitable if u sharpen ur shove fold game and a whole lot of profit per hour dont mind what anyone else has said about them being unprofitable these are definitly profitable

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Imo these can be super profitable if u sharpen ur shove fold game and a whole lot of profit per hour dont mind what anyone else has said about them being unprofitable these are definitly profitable

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they can be profitable but its most luck that does it

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Dont play hypers :) more luck than skill in those...

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Don't listen to posts like this. Just nonsense.

Some of the most profitable sng players in the world play hypers and they don't win because they're lucky. They win because they have an edge in the games. Now, obviously the edge they have is smaller than the edge in other sng types, but over tens of thousands of games that edge quickly adds up.

With that being said, I'd start with turbos. It makes more sense to start with a lower variance game and then transition to hypers when you have more experience.
 
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Don't listen to posts like this. Just nonsense.

Some of the most profitable sng players in the world play hypers and they don't win because they're lucky. They win because they have an edge in the games. Now, obviously the edge they have is smaller than the edge in other sng types, but over tens of thousands of games that edge quickly adds up.

With that being said, I'd start with turbos. It makes more sense to start with a lower variance game and then transition to hypers when you have more experience.

Yes there are players that are good @ them,but luck have bigger factor in those than in other format,in hyper its all about shove or fold.. And there is not so much skill in shoving,small conectors loses value in these games...

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I would recommend regular 6 max, not that hypers are not profitable, but your edge in them is much smaller than your regular games, plus you have less skills to learn in order to play a hyper turbo
 
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Yes there are players that are good @ them,but luck have bigger factor in those than in other format,in hyper its all about shove or fold.. And there is not so much skill in shoving,small conectors loses value in these games...

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There is skill in shoving, just ask the fish that like shoving but lose. Small connectors only lose value if you don't know how to play them. I think you are just guessing about these games and have no clue in how they actually play or how to play them.
 
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There is skill in shoving, just ask the fish that like shoving but lose. Small connectors only lose value if you don't know how to play them. I think you are just guessing about these games and have no clue in how they actually play or how to play them.

You dont know how many of those i played,and i played plenty... Lots of players shove any two here with hope of hitting something ( bingo play)
And since you are so smart,explain how you are gonna play small connectors in these games when almost 90% of hands are aipf...

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You don't play small connectors because they have no value with no implied odds.
Noting personal but playing a lot doesn't automatically mean you are right. It is pretty well known there are people making tons of money from hyper SNG. I remember reading somewhere that a majority of the SNE on Stars are hyper SNG specialist.

I do admit I am not too knowledgeable about the format. I have only played a few of them here and there just to see how they are like and to help me get a better feel to clear FPPs on Sunday Storm satellites to get T$. But I have played a fair number of turbo MTTs and the late stages of those are very similar to hyper SNGs in terms of stack sizing so I do have a general idea of what to expect.

Variance is very high, edge is small as its mostly preflop edge and usually your big edge against bad players come from deep stack post flop play where they make a lot of mistakes. That said, you can easily rack up huge volume of hyper SNGs and even with a small edge you can make lots of profits from these games.You need a big bankroll to play these though as the edge is small and variance is very high.
 
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Yes i didnt say i am expert or such for this format.. I know quite few people that play mostly this format,op asked this question like someone who never tried this... And he dont want to hear how jorj is one among best in these,and how some people make huge money in this...
I just said this format is more about gamble and luck than skill... For a novice player

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You dont know how many of those i played,and i played plenty... Lots of players shove any two here with hope of hitting something ( bingo play)
And since you are so smart,explain how you are gonna play small connectors in these games when almost 90% of hands are aipf...

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I'm not saying I'm smart. I had a coaching session with a pro last night and he showed me how to play them profitably, including suited connectors. He's smart. I would explain to you but I paid for the session.

Just because you have played loads doesn't mean you are good. And yes, lots of players "bingo" shove as you put it, that's where the better players shoving and calling skills come in.
 
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