Right move, wrong move?

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GLG-man

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Well I was playing at my local Rileys rebuy tounrey yesterday and had this hand.....

Blinds were 200/400 and I had 4700. I was dealt pocket 10's. My thinking was if I raise to say 1200/1600 I'd put a real dent in my stack if someone hits an over pair and I have to fold, needless to say I decided to call.

Flop comes down 8 5 3 rainbow, ideal flop.2 guy's check so I move all in for my remaining 4300. One guy called and he had checked his 2 pair 8 and 5. I did'nt hit a 10 and the board did'nt pair so I was out.

So my question is, was it a bad play to just call there? or was I just unlucky the guy hit 2 pair? I'm thinking you can look at it from both perspective's but I would like your opinion's....

G-man
 
ripptyde

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well I might as well be the first to go out on a limb here and say ...yes...it was a bad idea to just call.

At this point in the tourney the blinds are 200/400...if you shove you are likely to force all folds and take down 600 in blinds. The huge mistake here is soft playing a strong hand inviting multiple callers....10/10 is pretty much toast in a multi way pot.....in this case I am guessing the guy with 8/5 either completed the bb from the sb...or he was the bb getting a free flop because you checked.

No it was not unlucky that he hit two pair because you misplayed your hand and let him see a flop he had no business seeing.

If the blinds were say 50/100 then yes I would say call...or at that point you could raise without committing too much of your stack...but at 200/400 (not sure if there were antes')....in an unopened pot this is a pre flop shove....not even a raise...a SHOVE. Your 'M' is reaching the critical level which means you don't have the luxury of soft playing a hand like pocket 10's.
 
pokernut

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It really depends on what position you were in and what you had been raising when first in but normally in late stages of a tourney when there are antes, I'll raise it up 2.5 BB. It does the job in getting you the info you need at the minimum risk.

That's what I would suggest you should have done here. 85 does not call a 2.5 times BB raise here.
 
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Discussing particular hands is always a good thing to help improve your game. With so many variables that must be considered at the precise time a certain hand took place, other then the obvious of course after the fact, would be hard for anyone to dictate the exact decision that should of been made. Your opponents past and present play, stack size, position, etc... just to name a few dictate how your hand would best be played. This same exact hand could repeat itself 10 times in the same tournament, and might require a different action each time. If you spiked TT on turn and river, you wouldn't have even started this thread.
 
Mehman

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What that guy said ^^ ,but if you raise preflop with your PP you wouldn't have got any action as they say "win small, lose big" if im holding a higher end PP at that point in the tournament with less then 30BB i'd be raising preflop for sure.

And don't worry poop happens my cards have been about as cold as the nights round here lately.
 
HartAttack3

HartAttack3

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Im gonna have to agree with everyone else here and say you need to shove this hand or raise it. Heres the other question, if your willing to put all your chips in on the flop why not just do it PF if you think its a good enough hand to go with? You cant be scared of an overpair spiking or something like that, especially when you have about 11-12 BB's left. You need to shove and hope if its a coinflip that you come out on top.
 
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