Originally Posted by Whammy88
Hi all
Just looking for opinions on a specific situation that happened at a game I was at during the weekend. Tried looking for examples online but didn't find anything.
Player A bet 2000 on the river. Player B raised to 4000, verbally stated it and put the chips down. Player A thought it was just a call but instantly turned their cards over.
As this was happening, there was a lot of chatter at the table. Player A didn't hear the verbal raise and thought it was a call.
Player B did have the winning hand but should player A have to pay the additional 2000? There was no verbal call from Player A but the cards were flipped thinking it was a showdown.
I would imagine the cards were classed as mucked and the extra 2000 shouldn't be given to Player B.
Flipping it round, if Player A had the winning hand, they still wouldn't take the pot as the cards were mucked.
What do you think?
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If the chips went over the line verbalised or not, then it is a raise and as player A showed his hand face up then to me that is a call, if they were face down then it's a fold only if they are in the muck. If player A isn't paying attention then it's his own fault, if he flips his hand up and wins it's still a call afaik.
There may be some rule that covers that last part if player A wins. Flipping your cards over doesn't muck your hand.
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