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Has anyone ever played in one of these tournaments? This is where all the antes at the table are paid by off by the player in the big blinds. I've played in a few of them, and I don't have to pay attention to paying the antes until it's my turn to play in the big blinds. What do you think about it?
 
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Has anyone ever played in one of these tournaments? This is where all the antes at the table are paid by off by the player in the big blinds. I've played in a few of them, and I don't have to pay attention to paying the antes until it's my turn to play in the big blinds. What do you think about it?

I have never played in a tournament with this feature, I read an article on this and frankly I do not agree with it, apparently this was implemented to accelerate the game but frankly I do not see how this happens.

I ask you since you've been in this kind of tournaments the game speeds up? and if so, why?
 
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I have never played in a tournament with this feature, I read an article on this and frankly I do not agree with it, apparently this was implemented to accelerate the game but frankly I do not see how this happens.

I ask you since you've been in this kind of tournaments the game speeds up? and if so, why?
The dealer only has to concentrate on the one person that is responsible for the antes instead of everyone at the table. Players aren't always paying attention, and the dealer has to often remind people that it's time to pay up.
Also, There will often be players that do not have the exact amount of chips to pay up, and the dealer has to make the change in order to get the exact amount.
It helps a little bit and that adds up over time.
 
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I never had the opportunity to play in this configuration but anyway I avoid playing games with ante because after a while we are forced to defend his blind not to be too penalize.
 
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For the ones I've played, the BBA adds about 2-3 hands per 15min. There will always be those players that are oblivious to anything but cards in front of them but the BBA does save time.
 
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I mean its pretty much the same and should speed up the game, i dont see why not, after a full round everyone will pay the ante anyways but just 1 player puts it so i dont mind it and i like it
 
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Has anyone ever played in one of these tournaments? This is where all the antes at the table are paid by off by the player in the big blinds. I've played in a few of them, and I don't have to pay attention to paying the antes until it's my turn to play in the big blinds. What do you think about it?



I just played one of these this past weekend, I noticed that when the table gets below seven people, you are still paying the full nine handed amount for the antes but I talked to someone about it and they said that at some point when there is less than five people, they skip a few rounds to make up for it. It sucks when its high blinds and tables are a one from combining and you have to keep paying double the BB.
 
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I just played one of these this past weekend, I noticed that when the table gets below seven people, you are still paying the full nine handed amount for the antes but I talked to someone about it and they said that at some point when there is less than five people, they skip a few rounds to make up for it. It sucks when its high blinds and tables are a one from combining and you have to keep paying double the BB.
Did you notice that they are opening up the antis a lot sooner than they used to? BBA tourneys start the antes in the 2nd round. When they used to only bring them out in the 3rd or 4th round. Might be something to consider when you are trying to figure out pot odds or which hands to play pre-flop. :)
 
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It really makes the job of the dealer a lot less annoying. Don't have to remind every player every hand to post their antes. Also speeds up the play by around 5-10% more hands per hour from what I've heard.
 
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As long as it is equal for everybody playing, then it should not be a problem. Everyone pays the same amount, so what is the problem? If it speeds up the game and makes things easier to track, then there should be no issues with it.
 
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It definitely makes ante round up much easier on the dealer and does speed up the hands on average. When they were first introduced locally in Colorado we did run into a couple issues that left the floor unsure how to split multiway pots with an "all in" short stack for less than the big blind.

Over-all its not so bad, for higher stakes MTT's I still prefer the ante paid per player.
 
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The first time I played one of these types of tournaments had to google it to find out more about it because I've never heard of "Big blind ante" before. I had no idea what it meant, so I pulled up this article. It seems as though there was some controversy as to how the big blinds should cover the ante if his stack is too small to pay for the ante.
https://www.uspoker.com/blog/big-blind-ante-first-debate-matters/22325/

Does he pay it up after the hand is over, or should they just give him a free pass? What do you guys and gals think?
 
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Has anyone ever played in one of these tournaments? This is where all the antes at the table are paid by off by the player in the big blinds. I've played in a few of them, and I don't have to pay attention to paying the antes until it's my turn to play in the big blinds. What do you think about it?


I haven't played in one, but doesn't it hurt you if you are really short stacked like 12BBs? It also gives the big blind better odds to defend, and it usually disincentivize the normal "dead money" players from playing marginal hands since they didn't have to ante and doesn't have money in yet. It is an interesting structure, but I'm not sure how deep they make the structure with the BB ante in play.
 
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Here’s an idea. If antes slow up play so much just get rid of them and accelerate the blind structure.
 
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Almost all Vegas tournaments are big blind ante now so I have played in a lot of them. It does speed the game up a bit. I don't mind them unless I have a short stack lol.
 
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I have never played in a tournament with this feature, I read an article on this and frankly I do not agree with it, apparently this was implemented to accelerate the game but frankly I do not see how this happens.

I ask you since you've been in this kind of tournaments the game speeds up? and if so, why?
It speeds up the game because your not waiting for everyone to ante, the dealer doesn't have to make change as much or take the time to check everything.
I love the format. If your lucky enough to catch good hands on your big blind you can stay afloat a long time. It's much better than watching a little bit of chips slip from your pile hand after hand.
 
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Has anyone ever played in one of these tournaments? This is where all the antes at the table are paid by off by the player in the big blinds. I've played in a few of them, and I don't have to pay attention to paying the antes until it's my turn to play in the big blinds. What do you think about it?
i've played in 3 bba structured tourneys at foxwoods. and i guess it does speed up the game but i for one have had trouble adjusting to it. For one ive noticed players adjust there raise sizes, and the bb if forced to defend way more often with more chips in the pot. i did well in early stages but once the blinds are up to 50,000 100,000 thousand ive had trouble managing a 2 mil or less stack. its technically like you have 10 bb instead of 20 ( i know technically is the wrong word). So in the long run I think I'll like it but its really just another adjustment to be made in what i think will be the normal structure of the future.
 
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i played a few tournaments at a local casino where u pay a BB as ante on the button, which was really strange.
i think it's also to get rid of the smaller chips faster
 
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Not sure I like the sounds of this... I guess if everyone is paying the same but if they are taking 9 player ante when there are less than 9 I would have to think about playing there again.
 
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I love them.
I feel there is more action when the BB pays the antes. This way the BB has to pay 2BB, so he will defend more.
Altought it's the same amout in the pot, I find it alot more satisfying to steal the pot in this kind of tournament than in a regular ante tournament.
 
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i played a few tournaments at a local casino where u pay a BB as ante on the button, which was really strange.
i think it's also to get rid of the smaller chips faster


This is an interesting structure.

It seems to relieve the BB of the ante obligation.

But essentially it creates 3 blinds who feel invested in the hand.
 
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