Asking the floor to nullify a hand.

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Playing 2/5NL. On the button with about $2,000 in front of me.

UTG opens for $30 and gets two callers. I call with 3-3. SB folds. BB, loose player with huge stack, makes it $130. UTG and both his callers call the re-raise. $100 into $550 with a small pair on the button? I call.

Flop is 8h,3h,3d. Player across from me, brand new to the table, laughs and blurts out "Always play the first hand! I mucked 8-3 off!"

A couple of players, and the dealer, tell him off for giving players in an active hand that info. I of course keep my mouth shut.

There's 10d on the turn and the Ah on the river. Turns out UTG had 8-8, BB had 10-10, and one of the other pleflop callers had 9h-10h, short stacked.

There's fairly heavy betting on every street, I just call, till I go all-in on the river for my last $500, and BB calls me. (UTG and the flush are already all-in).

BB goes ballistic when I turn over my quads, saying he would never have called my all-in except that the new player had claimed to throw away a 3. UTG said he'd also never have put all his chips in had he known it was possible I'd called the preflop with 3-3.

Both players demand the floor should nullify the hand and count everyones chips back. I strenuously disagree, and the floor sides with me.

Now, there's no question the new player was WAY out of line - but does *anyone* think the floor should have nullified the hand?
 
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Hell no. Hand stands. Unless of course there were 5 3's in the deck.

Good for you though!
 
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Ridiculous for them to even call the floor for that in my opinion. New player's cards were not exposed, he was clearly FOS as someone also had 88. Some people just like to spew off at the mouth and be the center of attention. Nice score. To the other question above that is a very interesting question. If the deck indeed was bad and had five 3s giving you an edge even though you didn't know I wonder how they would rule that.
 
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No, I don't think the floor should have nullified the hand. The floor should maybe give Mr. I Had 8-3 a warning but definitely not nullify the hand.
 
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You lost me at "On the button with about $2,000 in front of me."
My brain can't handle such astronomical numbers... :)
 
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Sore Losers

Playing 2/5NL. On the button with about $2,000 in front of me.

UTG opens for $30 and gets two callers. I call with 3-3. SB folds. BB, loose player with huge stack, makes it $130. UTG and both his callers call the re-raise. $100 into $550 with a small pair on the button? I call.

Flop is 8h,3h,3d. Player across from me, brand new to the table, laughs and blurts out "Always play the first hand! I mucked 8-3 off!"

A couple of players, and the dealer, tell him off for giving players in an active hand that info. I of course keep my mouth shut.

There's 10d on the turn and the Ah on the river. Turns out UTG had 8-8, BB had 10-10, and one of the other pleflop callers had 9h-10h, short stacked.

There's fairly heavy betting on every street, I just call, till I go all-in on the river for my last $500, and BB calls me. (UTG and the flush are already all-in).

BB goes ballistic when I turn over my quads, saying he would never have called my all-in except that the new player had claimed to throw away a 3. UTG said he'd also never have put all his chips in had he known it was possible I'd called the preflop with 3-3.

Both players demand the floor should nullify the hand and count everyones chips back. I strenuously disagree, and the floor sides with me.

Now, there's no question the new player was WAY out of line - but does *anyone* think the floor should have nullified the hand?


Definitely the new guy should have shut up. But now he's giggling to himself about all the trouble he "caused". Welcome to the table! Not!

The losers want a "redo"? lol Huh, imagine that.

When one can not win the hand through their cards - the only other recourse is the floor.

Their statements really reflect poorly on the losing opponents. "If I thought it was possible?"

The only way the hand would be "nullified" is if there was another 3 on the river LOL

Good luck !
 
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Did you play that hand in a casino? A supervisor should intervene. If the place is serious, another dealer should be called to check the card count and if what he said is false, the player should be warned that if another interruption of this type occurs, he should be expelled from the room, for altering the development normal game. If the trap is discovered (very unlikely) the supervisor must suspend the game and proceed to make the total return of chips to all the players at the table. Obviously the rooms have a rigorous control of the cards used in the rounds, so that today it is quickly detected when there is a card that does not belong to the casino.
Greetings.
 
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No way this hand should be nullified. Just a massive cooler for everyone (quads over full house over full house) with you on the good side of it. No surprise that losers would look for any way they can to avoid paying up. They're basically freerolling - take a free chance at the floor siding with them; they were going to have to pay anyways. Most the floor could have done is warned the idiot who declared he mucked 9-3 during the action and eject him if it continues
 
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