Winner's Tilt in the form of a Graph

Thecontinuer

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Hello everybody.

A week or so ago there was a thread I created that culminated in the suggestion that I was suffering form Anti-Tilt. I'm now calling it winners tilt, which is where you've played a few good hands and are up, and that then fogs your mind.


I've attached a breakdown of a potion of my graph at that point. In blue, are winning hands, which usually come in for at least half a BI. Followed up by a corresponding donk staking off.


After going through and doing this to my graph I think I have the key to at least breaking even at 2NL. I'm not playing badly all around, but I'm playing TERRIBLY coming off of a win.

Something to consider if you are experiencing the same.
 

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In NLH and PLO there are only 3 types of hands winner hands,loser hands,and skill hands. Winner hands you are guaranteed to make money but don't be fooled any1 can win with winner hand.Like flopping a str8 when your opponent flops set. Also loser hands are hands where you are guaranteed to lose money. Both hand types should be emotionally avoided because they both cause tilt. Sounds like you got positive variance tilt.
 
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I think I been on a year long tilt then Maybe I need a break. Thanks for posting that..Christy
 
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Hey man,

winners tilt

On what samplesize is that graph? Might be just variance or other leaks you are experiencing. Dont get me wrong, "winnertilt" is actually a thing, I just want to make sure its not one of the above.
 
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Hey man,



On what samplesize is that graph? Might be just variance or other leaks you are experiencing. Dont get me wrong, "winnertilt" is actually a thing, I just want to make sure its not one of the above.

The portion of the graph shown covers around 3-5,000 hands. Although I have the same experience across a sample size of around 50,000 hands.


In some cases these dips are variance based. I'm not averse to calling 100BB preflop with AA against someone with a 50% vpip. I recall a few hands where runner runner flushes/straights have dropped when I've been in good.


Other times though, it's just the confidence of having done well. I've raised too high too early, without a strong enough hand, I've called thinking I've got the best hand and have missed the backdoor straight that's come through. A bunch of huge sweeping errors that culminate in me stacking off.


The good news, is that largely that sort of behavior could in theory be eliminated by the time I sit down again. Now I know the cause.

** Edit. **


It also tends to be the case that drops on the scale of the ones shown in the graph are stack sizes. There a hands that have played fine that go the wrong way, and hands that play bad and go the wrong way but they're never for a big as the times where I've shot above my head a few times. They're abnormally large and abnormally common.
 
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I have pulled up another example. This is zoomed in to depict a clearer image of what I am talking about.

Each vertical increment represents $2. Between hands 25,500 and 26,000 there were three instances of Buy In sized hands.


Followed up by one monster hand. I remember this one and it was bad play on my part. My stack was sat at 750 big blinds and it was slashed virtually in half from one hand. Totally unnecessary and avoidable.
 

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