When to 3 and 4 bet

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So, I posted my range chart earlier and someone mentioned that I need to learn when to three bet properly... I figured I'd start a new thread since that's its own topic.

Is this applicable with non-premium hands? Assume I'll three or four bet already with QQ or better. When, if at all, would I consider other hands?

Thanks in advance for the replies! :D
 
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Reposting my ranges for reference on this thread...

Raise always with AA, KK, QQ, JJ, AKs, AKo, AQs, AQo

Call from Early Position, otherwise raise with: AJs, KQs, KQo, AJo, KJs, ATs, TT, 99

Call always with: A9s - A2s, QJs, JTs, T9s, 98s, 87s, 76s, 65s, and 88 - 22

Call from late position sometimes (specualtive hands): KTs, QTs, Q9s, J9s, J8s, T8s, T7s, 97s, 86s, 75s, 64s, 53s, 54s, 43s
 
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Personally
I’m willing to 3-bet A5 suited up, sometimes at least,
Also in early position raising with a suited connector (89/87/65) maybe..in a tight tournament game anyway.

3beting some people with 89s or higher

I would fold a lot of kt jt qt in later position to early position raises

I might 3-bet TT+ from early....

I’m probably very wrong in my own ranges and am to interested in the answers on this thread.
 
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i usually 3-4 bet with AA, KK, QQ, JJ, AKs, AKo, TT, 99
 
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I think if you don’t “dilute” your 3-bet range with QQ+ with several hands like A5s, then very soon with your 3-bets you will say to regulars: “I have QQ, KK or AA” ))
 
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Reposting my ranges for reference on this thread...

Raise always with AA, KK, QQ, JJ, AKs, AKo, AQs, AQo

Call from Early Position, otherwise raise with: AJs, KQs, KQo, AJo, KJs, ATs, TT, 99

Call always with: A9s - A2s, QJs, JTs, T9s, 98s, 87s, 76s, 65s, and 88 - 22

Call from late position sometimes (specualtive hands): KTs, QTs, Q9s, J9s, J8s, T8s, T7s, 97s, 86s, 75s, 64s, 53s, 54s, 43s


I think that have a reference is good but you have to change range depend your opponent/table, if you play against a rock player/table maybe you have to 3-4 bet only with premium hands but if you play against loose players/table you can 3-4 bet if more hands.

Poker is a game of people, not cards (obviously that cards help, but the more you know your opponent, the easier it is to win). You always have to adapt to your opponents.
 
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I don't make a big difference between my starting hands.
If you 4 bet with AA, KK and 3 bet with everything else people will notice after a while.
 
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