What are the odds of a flush over a flush in poker?

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Let's say both players have suited cards. What are the odds of a flush over a flush in poker?
 
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According to one source:

Two players at a 6-max-table are dealt suited cards and both flop a flush 0.0770% or 1:1,298
Two players at a full ring table are dealt suited cards and both flop a flush 0.1847% or 1:540

But that's for flopping, so we have assume the odds are better for them just getting one by the time the river is dealt.
 
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It doesn't matter how many players are playing. the odds of both filling a flush are the same. The winner is the one with the highest one
 
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I am not asking if they both flop a flush, I am asking what are the odds if both have a flush by the river.
 
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Let's say both players have suited cards. What are the odds of a flush over a flush in poker?


Depends on what kind. At hold 'em it will be greater than stud because of the community cards, although with stud you can have flushes in two different suits, and are most likely to.
 
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This might be a great Trivial Persuit question. But if you want to make money in poker, what you really need to estimate is the risk, your opponent has a higher flush, when you have a flush yourself, and you face a non-favourable action like a raise on the river. And this will depend on a lot of things like board texture, previous action, number of people seeing the flop and of course the strenght of your flush. A hand like 43s is much more likely to get overflushed than K9s. Its basically a hand reading situation, and if your opponents range consist of 80% better flushes, and you face a large raise, then you should fold, no matter how statistically likely or not a flush over flush situation might be in general.
 
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Roughly 24.45:1 against or about 3.93%.

I am not sure how useful that number is, though. But it is the number of ways there can be 3 flush cards, plus the number of ways there could be 4 flush cards, plus the number of ways there could be 5 flush cards over the number of ways to deal 5 cards from the 48 remaining cards.
 
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I've been getting knocked out of tourneys often recently after flopping a flush only for my opponent to have flopped a bigger flush. Frustrating indeed.
 
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The odds of getting beat by a higher flush are definitely lower if you don't play all those lower suited hands! Stick with the high suited ones and you'll get that occasional sting a lot less often :)
 
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Roughly 24.45:1 against or about 3.93%.

I am not sure how useful that number is, though. But it is the number of ways there can be 3 flush cards, plus the number of ways there could be 4 flush cards, plus the number of ways there could be 5 flush cards over the number of ways to deal 5 cards from the 48 remaining cards.
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The odds of getting beat by a higher flush are definitely lower if you don't play all those lower suited hands! Stick with the high suited ones and you'll get that occasional sting a lot less often :)

Exactly. Small suited connectors or 1-2 gappers are losing most players a ton of money. They look so pretty, but in reality they dont perform well, especially if you play them passively and end up in a multiway pot, as a lot of people do. 5 people saw the flop, you turn the 5 high flush, and there is heavy action behind you. What do you think, at least one of your opponents have? A HIGHER FLUSH of course. Or at best they have the nut flushdraw, and another flush card comes on the river killing your hand and causing you to lose an enormous pot.
 
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I've been getting knocked out of tourneys often recently after flopping a flush only for my opponent to have flopped a bigger flush. Frustrating indeed.
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