Variance, TILT and stupid tournaments

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bugiardops

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Always when I give a break and then I go back to playing poker, everything works fine. However, after I accumulate some gain ($ 44.00 in a tournament for exemple) I start a bad time. I lose with AA, KK, QQ, AK for example for any low pair or cards with no connection at all. Then I start play a stupid tournaments (I in tilt) how spin and go, knockout of 1 dollar and and my losses increase ... :(


Do you believe this is called "variance"? How to overcome the bad moment? :confused:
 
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I don't think this is variance. It has happened many times to me as well. I win money and then I get knocked back down to $0, never fails. I get the money but then quickly lose it. I don't think too much about it but it has happen a bit. It is the same in life. Money is hard to make but easy to lose.
 
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I think it is variance. poker hands are very close, people think AA and KK should win every time. The reality is that even having someone crushed, you are most likely going to LOSE 1 out of 5 times (80/20). Most of the time you are going to be 60/40 which is indistinguishable from 50/50.

The hands you are talking about are actually very difficult to play (AA,KK,QQ,AK). If I have AA and the flop is J78 is my AA good? You can put on your blinders and say it is but there are always a bunch of hands that have you crushed. It is very difficult to improve AA,KK, QQ ect.... I'm not saying you should fold to a board like that, but you need to control the pot. A big pair is just that, 1 pair, it is very easy to get behind or draw dead.

Most of the time people over play these kind of hands and end up winning a small pot or losing a big one.
 
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are things that happen, if you feel unlucky do not play, try to evaluate the games and find in which you failed to be objective in each defeat the most important thing is to learn from it and get up
 
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Hi.
I have almost the same situation.
If I start to do nonsense, I stop playing poker. I am taking a break for 1-2 days. It helps me.
Good luck.
 
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I agree with Karl Coakley's response above. I would just add two points:

First, I think you already answered your own question. If you're starting to run bad, take a break for a day or two (from that site). Play on a different site. Good to have two or three sites to play on so you can alternate. Better than tilting all your money away.

Second, poker is always a game of ups and downs which is why you need a big enough bankroll to withstand this variance. With such a small bankroll of $44, you (and anyone else) will most likely end up back at zero.

If you're trying to build up a bankroll from zero, probably better not to play MTT's (except freerolls) because by nature they have very high variance and you will not cash most of the time. Try cash games instead. With $44, I would play NL2 (1¢/2¢).

In cash games, if its not going well at a table after a few orbits (don't wait until you lose your whole stack), you can just move to a different table. You have more control this way. In MTT or SnG, once you pay the buy-in the money is gone, and most of the time you will not gain anything.
 
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First of all before you even thinking of playing online poker and grinding money, you should clear with yourself. Tilt moments and loosing your bankroll management in 1night its not a good attitude for a poker player. So first of all you need to chill clear your mindset and start thinking positive. Even if you lose with AA and get busted out of the tourney, you don't need to tilt, just continue playing your other tourneys and be relaxed like you was before loosing your monster hand.
In general if you cant focus anymore or you cant control yourself under tilt, its perfect time for you to stop playing.
First most important rule is to play poker with clear mindset and never tilt.
Good luck sir.
 
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One of the things that I have found is that positive financial gains would also cause me to differ in how I play. Sometimes I would play too tightly trying to protect my money causing me to miss out on making value on my winning hands and folding too often. I would also find times I would play too loosely in an attempt to win more and play many hands I shouldn't or overvalue my hands or situations.

One of the things I used to do as well was try to slow play hands I shouldn't hoping a player would hand me chips. Most times I just let my opponent fall into a hand that beat me.
 
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