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Steveg1976
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Silver Level
x2
A
Adventurebound2
Legend
Silver Level
I have always performed well with 69
I lol'd.... Don't you guys know 77 is better than 69? (ya get 8 more
)Back to the game, price is right for a flat call.
pantin007
member
Silver Level
best play imo
Zorba
27
Platinum Level
I concur with this^^^^^
KerouacsDog
Legend
Bronze Level
Hand #********* at SnG-******* (No Limit Hold'em Sit and Go)
Started at 04/Sep/08 17:37:15
Kerouacsdog is at seat 2 with 5740.
DarkAngel_11 is at seat 3 with 3260.
The button is at seat 2.
Kerouacsdog posts the small blind of 50.
DarkAngel_11 posts the big blind of 100.
Kerouacsdog: 9s 6h
DarkAngel_11: -- --
Pre-flop:
Kerouacsdog raises to 200. DarkAngel_11 calls.
Flop (board: 5c 4c 8h):
DarkAngel_11 bets 400. Kerouacsdog calls.
Turn (board: 5c 4c 8h 9d):
DarkAngel_11 bets 1200
OK, turn gives me top pair, with a gutshot straight draw. Villian bets the pot, what's he got, and what do I do?
Started at 04/Sep/08 17:37:15
Kerouacsdog is at seat 2 with 5740.
DarkAngel_11 is at seat 3 with 3260.
The button is at seat 2.
Kerouacsdog posts the small blind of 50.
DarkAngel_11 posts the big blind of 100.
Kerouacsdog: 9s 6h
DarkAngel_11: -- --
Pre-flop:
Kerouacsdog raises to 200. DarkAngel_11 calls.
Flop (board: 5c 4c 8h):
DarkAngel_11 bets 400. Kerouacsdog calls.
Turn (board: 5c 4c 8h 9d):
DarkAngel_11 bets 1200
OK, turn gives me top pair, with a gutshot straight draw. Villian bets the pot, what's he got, and what do I do?
S
switch0723
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
ugh, pretty tough spot here. We are only really ahead of flush draws and 8's. Without stats or major reads, i sigh and just flat call, although it doesn't seem like a great option, folding is way to nitty imo and raising is obviously bad. So I flat call and kind of expect villain to have flush draw + overs, an everything draw, an 8 or 2 pair.
Given his range that i have just written however, the right play is probably to shove over the top here, but it just doesn't feel like the most ideal play.
sigh, i really don't know, i probably shove now i've thought about it more, since our 9 is most likely good, and i don't mind playing for stacks, since we are either ahead of flush draws or combo draws, but also have quite a few outs against 2 pair hands. We have also seriously under repped our hand in a weird way. Villain is very unlikely to put us on our current holding, and most likely thinks we are drawing/have overcards, so could easily be potting any pair here, so ye i shove
Edit: The above post, is my actual thought processes put into writing, so mind the scruffiness and unstructuredness
Given his range that i have just written however, the right play is probably to shove over the top here, but it just doesn't feel like the most ideal play.
sigh, i really don't know, i probably shove now i've thought about it more, since our 9 is most likely good, and i don't mind playing for stacks, since we are either ahead of flush draws or combo draws, but also have quite a few outs against 2 pair hands. We have also seriously under repped our hand in a weird way. Villain is very unlikely to put us on our current holding, and most likely thinks we are drawing/have overcards, so could easily be potting any pair here, so ye i shove
Edit: The above post, is my actual thought processes put into writing, so mind the scruffiness and unstructuredness
Dwilius
CardsChat Regular
Silver Level
A
Adventurebound2
Legend
Silver Level
I'm going with Switch on this one.
A bit more of my thoughts on the hand to add to Switch's post.
Maybe villian hit the 9 with a better kicker, doubt he made a straight but it iss possible (which makes his bet pot bet a bad play that might chase you away when he can bet less so you call to make more money off of you) Anyway, you're still on top pair with a draw so flat call or push hard, not folding as I gotta see the next card.
So, does he the straight with 67 in the hole, 2 pr, 9's with better/worse kicker, over pair pockets or just being pushy bluffing with high card or draw? That remains to be seen. (gut says he's being pushy on a week hand)
A bit more of my thoughts on the hand to add to Switch's post.
Maybe villian hit the 9 with a better kicker, doubt he made a straight but it iss possible (which makes his bet pot bet a bad play that might chase you away when he can bet less so you call to make more money off of you) Anyway, you're still on top pair with a draw so flat call or push hard, not folding as I gotta see the next card.
So, does he the straight with 67 in the hole, 2 pr, 9's with better/worse kicker, over pair pockets or just being pushy bluffing with high card or draw? That remains to be seen. (gut says he's being pushy on a week hand)
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OzExorcist
Broomcorn's uncle
Bronze Level
i am a little confused if your the button then how could you place the small blind in this hand, wouldnt you have to put in the big blind if its heads up
Button is always the small blind in heads up.
I'd have flat called the turn as well, villain's range there should be huge and it's a pretty cheap price to try for our gutshot.
On the turn, I shove this in a little over a New York second. We're realistically only worried about a fairly small range of hands - weird two-pairs, 67 for the straight and sets. His range (including his calling range) should still be much wider than that and include pretty much any pair here.
KerouacsDog
Legend
Bronze Level
Hand #********* at SnG-******* (No Limit Hold'em Sit and Go)
Started at 04/Sep/08 17:37:15
Kerouacsdog is at seat 2 with 5740.
DarkAngel_11 is at seat 3 with 3260.
The button is at seat 2.
Kerouacsdog posts the small blind of 50.
DarkAngel_11 posts the big blind of 100.
Kerouacsdog: 9s 6h
DarkAngel_11: -- --
Pre-flop:
Kerouacsdog raises to 200. DarkAngel_11 calls.
Flop (board: 5c 4c 8h):
DarkAngel_11 bets 400. Kerouacsdog calls.
Turn (board: 5c 4c 8h 9d):
DarkAngel_11 bets 1200. Kerouacsdog raises to 4800.
DarkAngel_11 goes all-in for 2660. Kerouacsdog is
returned 2140 (uncalled).
Tournament all-in showdown -- players show:
Kerouacsdog shows 9s 6h.
DarkAngel_11 shows ****.
River (board: 5c 4c 8h 9d 5d):
(no action in this round)
Showdown:
ok, so villian bet on turn, I raised all-in and villian calls.
River card is 5d, I hit two pair, 9's and 5's and win.............final question, what did villian have...................?
Started at 04/Sep/08 17:37:15
Kerouacsdog is at seat 2 with 5740.
DarkAngel_11 is at seat 3 with 3260.
The button is at seat 2.
Kerouacsdog posts the small blind of 50.
DarkAngel_11 posts the big blind of 100.
Kerouacsdog: 9s 6h
DarkAngel_11: -- --
Pre-flop:
Kerouacsdog raises to 200. DarkAngel_11 calls.
Flop (board: 5c 4c 8h):
DarkAngel_11 bets 400. Kerouacsdog calls.
Turn (board: 5c 4c 8h 9d):
DarkAngel_11 bets 1200. Kerouacsdog raises to 4800.
DarkAngel_11 goes all-in for 2660. Kerouacsdog is
returned 2140 (uncalled).
Tournament all-in showdown -- players show:
Kerouacsdog shows 9s 6h.
DarkAngel_11 shows ****.
River (board: 5c 4c 8h 9d 5d):
(no action in this round)
Showdown:
ok, so villian bet on turn, I raised all-in and villian calls.
River card is 5d, I hit two pair, 9's and 5's and win.............final question, what did villian have...................?
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switch0723
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
if he had a 4 in his hand, then your read that he was a pretty good player who knew what he was doing is awfully misleading. Noone with any kind of decent skill should be getting it all in with a hand with a 4 in here that loses at showdown to your hand.
