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So I was playing last night at local card casino and I look at 9 of spades and 9 of diamonds I was big blind for 2 bucks playing 2-100 spread and guy first to act goes 30 bucks so action gets to me and I call since I see 2 other calls ahead flop come 9 of clubs 8 of clubs 5 of spades I check top set guy that led pretty flop goes max for 100 and another guy raises gets back to me for 200 and I fold am I supposed to call their?
 
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So I was playing last night at local card casino and I look at 9 of spades and 9 of diamonds I was big blind for 2 bucks playing 2-100 spread and guy first to act goes 30 bucks so action gets to me and I call since I see 2 other calls ahead flop come 9 of clubs 8 of clubs 5 of spades I check top set guy that led pretty flop goes max for 100 and another guy raises gets back to me for 200 and I fold am I supposed to call their?


Thanks for posting.
There is a saying "give a person a fish they eat once, teach a person to fish they eat forever".
With that in mind this is a great opportunity for you to use the cardschat odds calculator and put in possible hands that you may be up against.

I tried two situations.
1 First OPP has AcKc other has 76 you have 35% equity.
2 First OPP has AhAd other has AcKc you have 70% equity

Play around with entering possible hand combos for villains like AcKc -55 or 77-55
KK- Jc10c

If you have any questions after you experiment quote this and reply and I will respond.

Happy fishing.
:):)
 
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Thank you so much for the help and I'll take the calculator to mind
 
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How did the hand play out? Not sure what kind of talent you were playing with but I'm not folding top set. Yeah the boards shakey with a club draw but again theres lack of info. I would like to know the ending results
 
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Never fold that ever. What a huge opportunity you missed.

That being said I assume you were afraid of a potential flush. However in my experience if someone is looking for a flush in Holdem they will play it safe or bet a small amount. Raising big tells exactly the opposite; they want you to either fold in case you could make a flush or take a risk calling.

A straight was also possible but 67 is extremely unlikely to have made it to the flop. And if they were looking for a 6 or 7 to complete a straight the same applies as in case of the flush scenario.
 
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I would have called.
Would 67 have played that way preflop, the flush draw was only that a FD.
On the flop, top set was way ahead of nearly all other possibilities.
 
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I would never fold top set in that spot . Sounds like you were up against 2 draws or a lower set . Plus you had the boat draw which would eliminate the flush and straight . I would love to know how the hand played out .
 
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I can't say many. Sometimes is quite vague to analyse, so many parameters involved, like table mud, tells, how the players were doing (playing) at previous hands.
Looking from here I wouldn't fold this top set and, in this case, would bet strong before go down the river all the way. But each table has it's own universe. You could be right, you were there, looking at their eyes, at their actions and so and so. Keep playing, but with care.


I believe it's not common players using odds calculators during a live poker mach.

Best of Luck.
 
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Well, I think the big question to ask is were you playing to survive, or are you playing to maximize your winnings? If your main concern is not getting knocked out because it's your last $100, then you might have the right call vs. if you're trying to maximize your winnings. There is the possibility someone already had a straight or could have sucked out on you with a flush or even a higher set later in the hand.
But if you're playing to maximize your winnings than you should have made the call. Not only did you have top set, but if the board pairs you have a full house. That means you have a 7 outer to hit a full house or quads even if someone does make a straight or flush.

If I was in that position I would have gone all-in, which I've done before in similar situations and got felted by a higher set or straight. But that's why it's a gamble.
 
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I think you missed a big opportunity you had top set.
 
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Never folding top set, most likely you were up-against AA , KK or a flush draw.
I don't think the other 2 callers had 6,7..!
maybe poket 88 or 55 but at some point in poker you have to gamble
 
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