Mental BankRoll problem

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When my bankroll is $290, my mental bankroll is $90.
And when my bankroll goes to $310, my mental bankroll goes to $10.

In reallity, bankroll is increasing, but mental bankroll is decreasing.
It makes me easier to tilt.

Does anyone have a similar experience?
How can I overcome this mental problem?
 
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mental bankroll? this is new to me
I don't know, maybe you need play without trying to reach "x$"
(per example, you have $290 and wants reach $1K, try to forget that while playing)
let things happens naturally, this can help against the tilt.
If you are playing in the limits of your bankroll and you know that, there's not much to stress about.
 
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Try to focus on the long term and how much, you won, rather than how much you lost lately. If you started with 100$, ran it up to 310$, and now you have 250$, you have not lost anything at all. You have actually won 150$, so continue to see yourself as a winner. All poker players love to finish a session at their all time high, but its just the nature of the game, that this is not going to happen very often.
 
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It sounds like you start to stress more about losing when you have more money to lose right? So long as you stay at stakes that you have an edge at and can beat long term then you have nothing to worry about. You'll have downswings but keep confident in your abilities and always look to learn, you'll be fine
 
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When my bankroll is $290, my mental bankroll is $90.
And when my bankroll goes to $310, my mental bankroll goes to $10.

In reallity, bankroll is increasing, but mental bankroll is decreasing.
It makes me easier to tilt.

Does anyone have a similar experience?
How can I overcome this mental problem?
Whether I have $290 or $310 on a poker site I would still view it as just play money at risk possibly lost already even,
I only count rolls properly when withdrawn from the poker sites and sitting in my payment processors while also a bit mental the reason is,
This is my coping mechanism for the wild swings that can occur and possible losses which are a part of the game.
Think you may be limiting yourself putting to much emphasis on $100 blocks of bankrolls unnecessarily and making it harder for yourself to break out into 4 or 5 digit roll territory.
Which is good regarding controlling losses but bad regarding winning a serious roll but each person is different good luck.:)
 
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Sounds like you are ready to do a $300 withdrawal. Don't worry about only having a $10 bankroll. You made it go to $300 once, you can make it get to $300 again, even with only $10 as your starting bankroll. I would not be comfortable leaving a 4 digit, and especially not a 5 digit roll on a poker site, only to wake up and not have access to it.
 
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Thanks all advice.
I would like to evaluate myself more in terms of making a profit from a long-term perspective.
 
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I would like to evaluate myself more in terms of making a profit from a long-term perspective.

I think, this is a key statement. If we play for profit, we need to set our goal higher than some random 3 number figure, because otherwise we are just wasting our time. And while its usefull to move up one limit at a time, at least for cash game players, some people get to caught up in the "bankroll building" idea.

There is no point in playing 100NL Zoom on pokerstars, just because we are rich, if we are going to be a losing player in that game. But there is also no point in putting in endless hours grinding 5NL or 10NL just to "build a bankroll", if we are good enough already to beat 25NL. Then we should just take the money, which is needed for a 25NL "bankroll", from our savings and move up.
 
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Think all levels that can be played should be respected and enjoyed for what they are fundiver199 as freerolls have great +EV value no matter how big your roll if thinking about playing thousands of them long term not just a couple of games for example,
Micros still matter too even if have a large roll especially when tired,tilted or not playing your best recommend dropping right down in buy ins to 1 dollar entries even.
10x $20 wins total $200 in the micros looks and spends the same in your bank statement as 1x $200 win in the midstakes for example.
To me I look at freerolls and micros as important stepping stones to the minimum withdrawal amounts and when make the withdrawal button your friend and drop back down in limits that can be very profitable bankroll building off the poker site and a lot harder to go on a downswing,
The rise and grind strategy playing bigger buy ins can also be very profitable but the flip side to this is that it can also end in a massive downswing if variance turns or discipline disappears which happens to a lot of players.
Agree though we need to take shots sometimes and BRM strategy should not be the small roll we have left on a poker site but what you have in reserve available to deposit if necessary but are leaving it on a payment processor as a buy in stop loss instead.
No answer is completely right or wrong though I suppose and each person is different in how they deal with loss anxiety which is a big part of the game.
 
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I found this question a bit too vague & confusing & I don't feel that the replies got to the crux of what you were asking
 
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Common bankroll rule for buy-ins is 50 for cash, 100 for tournament.

If you're more concerned about making a profit, than making the right call, then you will not win, long-term.
 
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When my bankroll is $290, my mental bankroll is $90.
And when my bankroll goes to $310, my mental bankroll goes to $10.

In reallity, bankroll is increasing, but mental bankroll is decreasing.
It makes me easier to tilt.

Does anyone have a similar experience?

How can I overcome this mental problem?

Well I have a worse problem , I get attached to my bankroll . once I start losing I go downhill fast . until I lose it and I get bankrupt
 
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Same here, what makes me think about casino slot!
 
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don't count your bankroll
for me it is not money but chips
the best way not to get attached to it
 
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Mental bankroll is tense, but I think I understand what you said. I have a similar problem, getting too attached to my BR, I know everyone goes through a down swing, but when I'm in one, I feel really down, and that sucks.
 
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I have struggled for years about BRm I think I finally have a grasp 100x buy ins and maybe ill be profitable
 
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