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Supmargy
Visionary
Silver Level
Hi all
After seeing Grinderella's new leak series, I was checking my suited connector hand history and found that sometimes when a couple of people limp in and I'm in late-ish position, I also limp my SC.
My reasoning is this: SC are stronger in multi way pots than in isolated pots, because when you hit you hit something really good (straight/flush. I wouldn't consider low pair or middle pair as good enough in a multi way pots, if it's 2 way sure then you can bet).
So why bother raising preflop? I can't think of any reason...
What is your opinion guys? Is limping preflop sometimes ok? Would you raise SC in late position when others already limped in?
I'll give an example:
PokerStars - 75/150 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
CO: 37.48 BB (VPIP: 55.56, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, hands: 9)
BTN: 16.03 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 9)
SB: 15.52 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
BB: 11.8 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
UTG: 6.45 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
UTG+1: 22.57 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
MP: 34.66 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
MP+1: 17.93 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
Hero (MP+2): 40.19 BB
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7:club: 6:club:
fold, UTG+1 calls 1 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 1 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 0.5 BB, BB checks
Flop: (4 BB, 4 players) 5:heart: 7:diamond: 8:club:
SB bets 2 BB, fold, UTG+1 calls 2 BB, Hero raises to 9.8 BB, SB raises to 14.52 BB and is all-in, UTG+1 raises to 21.57 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 11.77 BB
Turn: (61.65 BB, 3 players) 8:heart:
River: (61.65 BB, 3 players) 5:spade:
UTG+1 shows 9:diamond: K:club: (Two Pair, Eights and Fives)
Main Pot [47.56 BB]: (Pre 53%, Flop 5%, Turn 2%)
Side Pot#1 [14.09 BB]: (Pre 61%, Flop 20%, Turn 12%)
Hero shows 7:club: 6:club: (Two Pair, Eights and Sevens)
Main Pot [47.56 BB]: (Pre 27%, Flop 11%, Turn 12%)
Side Pot#1 [14.09 BB]: (Pre 39%, Flop 80%, Turn 88%)
SB shows 9:spade: 6:spade: (Straight, Nine High)
Main Pot [47.56 BB]: (Pre 20%, Flop 84%, Turn 86%)
SB wins 47.56 BB
Hero wins 14.09 BB
After seeing Grinderella's new leak series, I was checking my suited connector hand history and found that sometimes when a couple of people limp in and I'm in late-ish position, I also limp my SC.
My reasoning is this: SC are stronger in multi way pots than in isolated pots, because when you hit you hit something really good (straight/flush. I wouldn't consider low pair or middle pair as good enough in a multi way pots, if it's 2 way sure then you can bet).
So why bother raising preflop? I can't think of any reason...
What is your opinion guys? Is limping preflop sometimes ok? Would you raise SC in late position when others already limped in?
I'll give an example:
PokerStars - 75/150 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
CO: 37.48 BB (VPIP: 55.56, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, hands: 9)
BTN: 16.03 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 9)
SB: 15.52 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
BB: 11.8 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
UTG: 6.45 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
UTG+1: 22.57 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
MP: 34.66 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
MP+1: 17.93 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
Hero (MP+2): 40.19 BB
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7:club: 6:club:
fold, UTG+1 calls 1 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 1 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 0.5 BB, BB checks
Flop: (4 BB, 4 players) 5:heart: 7:diamond: 8:club:
SB bets 2 BB, fold, UTG+1 calls 2 BB, Hero raises to 9.8 BB, SB raises to 14.52 BB and is all-in, UTG+1 raises to 21.57 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 11.77 BB
Turn: (61.65 BB, 3 players) 8:heart:
River: (61.65 BB, 3 players) 5:spade:
UTG+1 shows 9:diamond: K:club: (Two Pair, Eights and Fives)
Main Pot [47.56 BB]: (Pre 53%, Flop 5%, Turn 2%)
Side Pot#1 [14.09 BB]: (Pre 61%, Flop 20%, Turn 12%)
Hero shows 7:club: 6:club: (Two Pair, Eights and Sevens)
Main Pot [47.56 BB]: (Pre 27%, Flop 11%, Turn 12%)
Side Pot#1 [14.09 BB]: (Pre 39%, Flop 80%, Turn 88%)
SB shows 9:spade: 6:spade: (Straight, Nine High)
Main Pot [47.56 BB]: (Pre 20%, Flop 84%, Turn 86%)
SB wins 47.56 BB
Hero wins 14.09 BB