KJo on Cut Off

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What's your decision, with kJo hand in deep stack tournament, 9 players, Cut Off position: Do you Fold, Raise Fold or Raise Call?
 
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I think I would fold, it is really not that good and difficult to play when oop, if it was suited it would help a bit.
 
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In my opinion, if you fold KJo(or other similar hands) from good positions like CO/ Hijack/ BTN(especially in deep stack mtts), you're definitely folding too much... it's not my favorite hand though, so my pick is Raise Fold with a mix of calls from time to time if I have info on the opponent that 3bets...
 
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Generally speaking i would raise fold but it depends on various factors such as stack sizes.
 
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I will raise fold except when my stack is very deep.
 
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I would definitely raise it. I think such hands should be raised in this situation. If they raise it back, it is important how much and from what position. If the dealer reraises, I'd rather fold than the blinds.
 
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It's a clear open from cut off but probably a fold to a 3bet. I cant believe anyone really just open folds this hand from late position?!
 
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Depends a lot on any previous reads on people to my left. In most cases I would try raising unless I knew there were maniacs to the left because I'm still not good at post-flop play and KJo is a hand that is prone to being dominated and easy to get into trouble with.
 
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It is a strong hand when there is no action in front of you, but when facing a 3 bet, it simply doesn’t have enough equity to continue as a profitable call, it would either be a fold or 4 bet bluff. It is a hand i often see people over play, or certainly call 3 bets, even if you hit top pair on the flop, there is a huge chance you are still dominated.
 
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What's your decision, with kJo hand in deep stack tournament, 9 players, Cut Off position: Do you Fold, Raise Fold or Raise Call?
Raise Fold. It's a good hand to open, but cannot continue against a 3 bet. Very high chance of getting dominated.
 
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KJo is definitely not an open fold from CO early in an MTT. How I react to a 3-bet depends on the sizing, the position of the 3-bettor and reads / HUD-data. I am more likely to call a SB 3-bet rather than a BTN or BB 3-bet, and of course I am also more likely to call, if I am getting a good price, or if the opponent is very loose and aggressive. If its a large 3-bet from an unknown, then I fold. A hand like KJo is somewhat problematic in a 3-bet pot because of reverse implied odds. Meaning that when you connect with the board, often that just sets you up to pay off a better hand. Like it comes K83, and you end up losing a big pot to AA, 88, AK or KQ.
 
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We can open raise KJo even in Lo Jack position, but we must always predict the reactions of opponents in function of their profile.

KJo is not a hand that supports a 3Bet.
 
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What's your decision, with kJo hand in deep stack tournament, 9 players, Cut Off position: Do you Fold, Raise Fold or Raise Call?
If the table all fold for your in this position, is 100% raise at deep tournament, with average stake sometimes you can play calling a raise. But all table folding for cutoff, for me in this situation, you need open.
 
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What's your decision, with kJo hand in deep stack tournament, 9 players, Cut Off position: Do you Fold, Raise Fold or Raise Call?
Sometimes I call and sometimes I fold.
 
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if you have information about the players, then it will be correct to make any of the decisions depending on what information you have about the players, ideally reraise such a raise hand and if the opponent folds, then it's good if not, you will have to throw it away after the call it will be difficult I think this hand:D
 
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