I found the leak that makes me a losing player, it's not tilt!!!

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I have been playing Micro-stakes poker for several years and have lost lots of money playing it. It's not that I am a bad player because I will often rack up a stack 2-3 or even 5 times what I put in. I play about 30% of my hands I will usually win when i go to show down and will earn the respect of the table. But here is my problem. I will give you a real hand i played and lost. I had pocket 10 on the board where JJ 10 Q 2 so i had a full house. the player I was up against was a tight player with i vpip of only 12. He was calling my big bets and I had the thought I bet he has pocket QQ because on ACR when you have pocket pair you can bet someone else does too. I knew he had this and I still went all in and of course he did have pocket QQ which gave him a better full house. This happens to me over and over and over. I know I am beat but have trouble folding. I know others have the same problem as me just not as bad and doesn't make them a losing player. So I am going to working on learning to fold when i know I am beat. If you have any ideas on how I can learn this or unlearn my leak let me know. thanks
 
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I have been playing Micro-stakes poker for several years and have lost lots of money playing it. It's not that I am a bad player because I will often rack up a stack 2-3 or even 5 times what I put in. I play about 30% of my hands I will usually win when i go to show down and will earn the respect of the table. But here is my problem. I will give you a real hand i played and lost. I had pocket 10 on the board where JJ 10 Q 2 so i had a full house. the player I was up against was a tight player with i vpip of only 12. He was calling my big bets and I had the thought I bet he has pocket QQ because on ACR when you have pocket pair you can bet someone else does too. I knew he had this and I still went all in and of course he did have pocket QQ which gave him a better full house. This happens to me over and over and over. I know I am beat but have trouble folding. I know others have the same problem as me just not as bad and doesn't make them a losing player. So I am going to working on learning to fold when i know I am beat. If you have any ideas on how I can learn this or unlearn my leak let me know. thanks


Calling when you have a strong feeling that you are beat is a leak, no doubt about it, I am guilty of it too. I can only think right now of two ways to plug it: discipline and experience.
It's just that I don't think your example quite qualifies, in my opinion you had to go all in there, because folding a full house would be a catastrophic mistake most of the time.
If you are a losing player at micro stakes, I'm pretty sure it's not from calling with full houses.
 
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Yes sometimes you know 3rd or 4th best hand even though its a monster you need to fold to take your game to the next level.:)
 
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bankroll management I found is the most important skill for making yourself a winner

Gotta give yourself a big enough cushion to absorb some inevitable losses
 
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waving the white flag, calling off the dogs..

You aren't the only player with supreme confidence in their "good" cards. You example was good, you had a boat, a better boat was possible, you bot beat
AA and KK lead to similar problems, not laying them down when there are possible outs. I had AA and after flop, turn, a one card to complete a straight was on the board. I had my AA, even if I caught the A, if opponent had ":the" card for the straight, I was doomed. Of course, I called, sure enough, they ad the magic card, complete straight. Shoulda laid down the AA after the flop, dummy I am, went down with the ship holding onto AA.
 
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Yes sometimes you know 3rd or 4th best hand even though its a monster you need to fold to take your game to the next level.:)

If you are struggling to beat micro stakes games, it is almost certainly not, because you call to much with full houses. Most people dont fold TT on JJTQ2 board for 100BB or less, so when we have the QQ, and they have the TT, they also go broke to us.

As for the old TV hand a lot of people could be raising that river for value with AT or KT, and then folding JJ is obviously very bad. It always looks great on TV, when you make a play like this, and you are right. But there are also several clips, where people are wrong and look like fools.
 
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