This is a discussion on How to play middle pair??? within the online poker forums, in the Learning Poker section; Middle pair.. It is one of the most marginal hands on NL holdem, which is really common to see (E.g you have 88 flop comes
Middle pair.. It is one of the most marginal hands on NL holdem, which is really common to see (E.g you have 88 flop comes T 6 2 rainbow) Many people said middle pair is considered as a trash hand and do check-fold. But I think this is really serious leak. Especially, in the tournament, most players don't have a time to wait good hands. So they raise with marginal hands like KT J9 T9s etc... and even shove all-in with middle pair.
I think I'm losing on Cash game (2NL...) and tournament because I can't handle the middle pair...
How to play middle pair on 2NL cash game and tournament?
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Feel like I say this a lot, but there is no one rule. There are so many factors affecting optimal play here. Perhaps post hand histories of the sorts of situations you struggle with? Then we can help...
The game with middle pairs is a speculative game because I rely on the concept of implied odds, I am assuming that I will pay if connect my Set. Therefore it is necessary to play them in a multiplayer pot where it increases the likelihood that an opponent pay me.
It turns there are low cards on flop, we have an overpair and also a problem.
In these cases the position is determinative. If we play
in the last or penultimate position and the pot is not open bet 3/4 or the pot, and if we do not win the pot immediately, give us a free card on the turn.
If I am 10 bb or less and players to my right have limped into the pot,I am pushing pocket 8's all in pre flop ,or I am folding pre flop.No 3x bb bets for me, go big or fold.I might be wrong but that's how I would play it.Same also if I was on the bb and the button 3 bet trying to steal a blind.
Our main goal playing pocket pairs in MTTs the tournament the following:
- Catch the set, and correctly cast it
- Being in position post flop to take the pot.
Never play the limp pocket pairs is not profitable to do
I'm like TeUnit, that is a tough question. I really don't know how I would play 88, in what position, unless I'm in that situation, which happens many times during a day of play. So there are many ways to play small and middle pairs, or any hand for that matter. I keep changing up if I'm in a MTT and at the same table for awhile. In cash games I have to change up or I'm not winning very much, because I play with a lot of regulars at FF. I hope that makes sense. GL to you.
If you've got respect from the table then you can play mid pair a bit aggressively, but if you're new to a table or if you obviously bluff a lot you're going to have a hard time convincing others that you've got them beat, so you'll have to play big to get as many as possible to fold to increase your chances, but if someone has top pair with a decent kicker they're sure to call.
I think you need to show some strength pre-flop in order to put your opponents on notice .. then if you hit trips you need to show even more strength .. I tend to try to bait my opponents after I hit trips on the flop, then they come over the top and I fold if the flop has a card higher than my pair. When I grow a pair I will re-raise instead of folding.
The play with a middle pair depends on a lot of things. Depends on the behaviour of your opponents, on your position , on your playing style, etc. For example if I'm at the early stage of a tournament with 88 in hand and the flop is T62 rainbow I try to play passive to see the turn for free or cheap.
if you often buries the average couple in the early stage, even before the flop, then go ahead and make a push to count later stage, if you have a minimum of 77 at the hands of a proven and approved by PokerStars
I'm conservative with middle pair. If everyone checks on the flop and the turn is a card lower than ur middle pair I will usually bet that. If there's a consistent bet to the river your middle pair will be beat so for me its about positioning and how much bets are out on the table.
Middle pairs can be very dificult for game. If some player raise preflop 3bet or allin l fold. If l em underthegan l always raise with this hand . When flop comes and if all or two cards are bigger than my pair l check, if some raise fold. If i hit set l going to the end. If all or two cards are less than my pair a raise or 3bet. Like all hands in poker depends in wich position you are and how much chips you have. I push all in if l one of the smallest stack.