Help me figure it out! Call or fold????

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Lol1x1

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Hello, please help me figure out the situation. Opened with A7 and Villain shoved. The pot is 17 bb, I have to pay 11 bb (65% of the pot). Against his range, I have 28% to win. How is the profitability of a call / fold calculated? thanks:confused:
 
Shumkoolie

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It's a good question, but I'm afraid there's too much that you left out that really give us a better of how we think a specific play is. Is this a 6 handed table? 9 handed? Is this a tournament? A Sit & Go? Are we in the money? Is this a PKO? Also, it depends on the villain as well and what they are capable of. My initial thought with the information at hand tells me that their shove says that they're holding a hand that your hand does poorly against (overall against their range).

They're shoving big Aces, big pocket pairs, all of which you are behind. You're really hoping that they are shoving a hand like A5 suited or any A-wheel cards (suited or unsuited).

I'm leaning towards folding pre-flop here based on my initial impression, but given you did raise, I'm raise-folding to a shove.
 
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It's hard to say something with so much missing information. Some things that may help you take that decision are: where did you come up with this range (GTO? Have you played with him before and know how tight/agg his shoves are?)?; From which position did you open and from which position did he shove? How many people there were on the table?; How many chips did you have?; Was is a bounty tournament (I assume not, since you left that out when calculating the pot value)?; How many people were left on the tournament?
All these questions are important and this hand of yours can be a call or a fold depending on the circunstances.
 
daddybrooks

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As prev 2 said, lot of info missing to say. Remember to include your starting chips and positions of all involved at a minimum.

As it sits however, if you're already in for 8bb and it's HU against jammer, even though you're likely behind if he has any A, may as well call if you have a decent stack behind.
 
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Hello, please help me figure out the situation. Opened with A7 and Villain shoved. The pot is 17 bb, I have to pay 11 bb (65% of the pot). Against his range, I have 28% to win. How is the profitability of a call / fold calculated? thanks:confused:



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Situations are usually different, but in this case I am more inclined to consider the fold. In general, in most cases, I do not play with such starting hands.
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Herkstwin

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I have to agree with the other responses - way too much missing information. Was your A7 suited or not? Were others still in position to act after your opening - especially if they were between you and villain.
Sorry, but the question cannot be answered as it stands.
 
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La reytor

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It depends on your position in the tournament in which position you are, you say 17BB if you are close to the bubble the most likely is to fold, and waiting is always good to recover the entry, try to go as far as possible. :deal:
 
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CourtJester

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I'm with everyone - need wayyyyyyy more info. Not saying that you should have all that info, but I don't wanna make a blanket statement about a situation with too many variables.
 
pavel1111111

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if you are player who likes to gamble , you call , if you are a poker player, you fold :)))
 
Izzeee

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That depends on a lot of factors. What position are you in, what position is the villian in, how many BB's do you have, are they known for playing a lot of garbage, are they know for bluffing? All of those question need to be taken into account when calling someone's all in. Generally speaking, I'm not calling an all in with A7 very often at all. Unsually depends on position and stack depth.
 
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