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David Bisbal

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Section to help beginners, only recently learned about poker. In this section of a poker forum you can ask any questions and be sure to get a response.
 
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CHAVIKI

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Congrats

Thanks to all you people y always learn alot from CC, great job.
 
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Jmckay

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Ive tried alot of things and sites but i swear people can see my cards and the cards to come.
 
ShinGraze

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Ive tried alot of things and sites but i swear people can see my cards and the cards to come.



This means that you're not a good player. Standard excuse.
 
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Andrew neeme had a great utoobe channel-he plays some hands then break it down for you -why he bet or raised and so on-check out his channel if you get the time you wont be disapointed
 
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I agree with
Tihomir_kula, school pokerstars is a great way to learn to play well, and card chat helps you can have a lot of interesting information to learn and learn to play well, successful learning
 
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I think that this topic will be useful to many. But most importantly - after the required volume of theory, a very long practice of the game.
 
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people her will help you but you should also look at videos
 
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download a copy of polished poker, its free and straight forward, very good in teaching new players on how to play the game.
 
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A poker equity calculator which supports mac

Hi,

i'm looking for a poker equity calculator which supports macbook. Something like 'equilab' Preferably free ofcourse but willing to pay aswell.

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Plenty of donks on this forum. Be careful with the advice they give you. I have seen some post about how easy it is to go all in with 66 when you have 50BB.

HAHAHAHA
 
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Plenty of donks on this forum. Be careful with the advice they give you. I have seen some post about how easy it is to go all in with 66 when you have 50BB.

HAHAHAHA



I would absolutely concur. Like they say, if you can't spot the sucker at the table in your 1st 30 minutes, you are the sucker (Thanks Mikey).

There's a lot to be said for starting your poker journey with an actual book written by someone with a clear cut track record of winning.
 
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Also, you might want to watch "The Poker Guys" on youtube, they analyse prominent hands and can give you an idea of how a better player thinks about the individual elements of the game. I'd strongly recommend pausing throughout each video to assimilate what they're saying. But very recommendable [emoji1360]
 
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Calculator

I see the calculator on a webpage, do I need to download the calculator, and if not how to I get to start up the odd calculations. I put in my PC and the flop and nothing is showing
 
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Hi, I was looking through interesting facts here and want to share with you my own experience. When I was beginner in poker I tried many different platforms, but eventually I found site where I can get bonuses without deposits and reviews about top-level poker rooms and stocks there, Check it out ;)
 
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Moving up in knowledge.

Hey Guys,


I have a pretty good question, atleast I think =]


I myself am a beginner poker player, and have read a couple beginner books. My question is, and by all means I know I am not ready to go up in stakes, but when is it a good idea to go further in poker knowledge? or better yet when is it a good idea to read the next level books ( not talking about next level stakes here) just a next level in knowledge to the game. should I wait until I perfect the techniques within the first book? Thank you.


Also, feel free to share any books, videos, tips, or whatever =]
 
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Hey Guys,


I have a pretty good question, atleast I think =]


I myself am a beginner poker player, and have read a couple beginner books. My question is, and by all means I know I am not ready to go up in stakes, but when is it a good idea to go further in poker knowledge? or better yet when is it a good idea to read the next level books ( not talking about next level stakes here) just a next level in knowledge to the game. should I wait until I perfect the techniques within the first book? Thank you.


Also, feel free to share any books, videos, tips, or whatever =]

There is no perfect time to increase your knowledge. The better you know, the better decision you should be able to make. Its a very wrong notion that you have to wait to learn more, but that said, you need to be able to apply all that you know in your game before implementing a new tactics/strategy.
On that note, if you're reading some advanced material and not able to understand the concept, it might be a good idea to go back to some basics and brush up your knowledge.

“Knowing is not enough; we must apply. Willing is not enough; we must do.” ~ Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
 
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There is no perfect time to increase your knowledge. The better you know, the better decision you should be able to make. Its a very wrong notion that you have to wait to learn more, but that said, you need to be able to apply all that you know in your game before implementing a new tactics/strategy.
On that note, if you're reading some advanced material and not able to understand the concept, it might be a good idea to go back to some basics and brush up your knowledge.

“Knowing is not enough; we must apply. Willing is not enough; we must do.” ~ Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

Thank you sir. Very much appreciated. I also have one more question as I was doing a little research I stumbled upon the term. expected value. AS I do understand how EV works, it seems to me that the only possible way to actual get EV is through a Calculator, which means only if you are playing Online... How would someone possibly figure out the EV of a play without an EV calculator... Thank you again.
 
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Thank you sir. Very much appreciated. I also have one more question as I was doing a little research I stumbled upon the term. Expected Value. AS I do understand how EV works, it seems to me that the only possible way to actual get EV is through a Calculator, which means only if you are playing Online... How would someone possibly figure out the EV of a play without an EV calculator... Thank you again.

Hey, don't call me SIR, sir. :confused:
Dude, Man, Bro, and the many other, all cool. Sir, not cool.

Anyways coming to the point, let me explain what that actually means.

Expected value (EV, mathematical expectation, expectation), by definition, means the long-run average value of repetitions of the experiment. This is calculated by adding the product of each outcome with the probability of that outcome.
Let me explain with an example: The expected value of a random dice (6-side fair), is 3.5.
The probability of each outcome = 1/6 (since there are 6 sides)
The outcomes of the event are 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
So EV = 1*1/6+2*1/6+3*1/6+4*1/6+5*1/6+6*1/6=21/6=3.5

Now to understand better where it plays a role in gambling, lets say you and your friend are tossing a coin (a fair coin). You both decide to wager $10 on the gamble, i.e. lets say if heads comes, you friend gives you $10, if tail comes, you give your friend $10.
So in this case, the EV = 0
Since the probability of heads = 1/2
probability of tails = 1/2
So here, EV = (+10)*1/2+(-10)*1/2 = 0

Now coming to poker, EV has to be calculated for a lot of different actions (check, call, fold, raise). We do that with the intention of making a comparison between different actions and choose the one which gives us the maximum expectation. The fundamental objective of poker is to maximize your EV.
But as you know, poker is a game of hidden information, i.e. you don't know all the cards the opponent is holding. In which case, you have to make the best estimate of the possible combinations of hands that the opponent might have to get a view of how well you're doing against him. But knowing the possible combinations doesn't do us any good if we cannot rate it against the hand we're holding.
This comparison of two hands is done by calculating the total number of possible board run outs. And the results gives us the chance or percentage, which is also called equity (probability).
Since, this combination calculation are very large (The total number of board combination is around 42 million). And I'm sure you don't want to deal with that many number of calculation, it's way tedious. Which is why we use computer software to do that calculation for us.
Now to calculate the EV, we multiple that equity(that we get from the software), with the amount we're wagering. In simplest terms, EV in poker = Probability of winning * Amount we win - Probability of losing * Amount we lose.

That said, you can use some heuristics shortcut while you're in a pot. When you've a Open ended straight draw, you've 8 outs to make the nuts without considering what the opponent is holding. In this case, you've around 32% chance of winning. You can find the chance of winning (equity) by googling a outs to equity chart, something like Chart. And using that probability, calculate the EV. Now like I said, we calculate EV for each action, i.e. in poker, check, call, raise, fold. But those are a bit advanced material (Can't be explained in one post, and definitely not without an understanding of all poker fundamentals).

It doesn't matter whether you're playing online or live, the equity calculators are stand alone programs and don't need any poker client to run. You can find a free calculator here: Equilab.

Hope this clarifies your doubt. That said, my suggestion to would be to pick up a Poker theory book: The Theory of Poker is a good book to start. If you find trouble understanding anything you can ask that in this forum and people will surely help.
 
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Do not play multiple tournaments at the same time.

It is often boring for beginners to follow the same table, so they register for several tournaments in parallel. Do not give in to such desires! In this game mode, concentration drops dramatically and you are drowning in mistakes. You need to solidify your basic strategy first, so start small.
 
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