Flyer35 - Wall of Shame!

[Flyer35]

This is going to be a personal record of my poker mistakes. I don't make a lot (uh huh), but I do make the same ones over and over and over. I know this, but I do it anyway. Maybe because I don't have a public wall of shame. So I'm committing today to make a note here every time I lose a big hand or game describing what I did wrong. If I'm right, this will be a very repetitive list. Or, who knows, maybe I'll learn something new after all (uh huh).

Others are welcome to ridicule my mistakes. This is the one and only thread where I also commit to not snark back if I feel picked upon. You're also welcome to make suggestions.

 

[Flyer35]

First entry. I hadn't planned on doing this so I didn't take any screenshots. I had AKo and opened 3X out of position with one caller who I believe was on the button. The flop came Axx including 2 hearts. I had no hearts. I c-bet and was immediately called. I then went on to c-bet again on a turn which didn't add to my hand. Again a call. The river was a 3rd heart. I bet and was immediately raised.

I called which put me all-in. YOU DID WHAT? I hear you shout.

Yes, I was beat by a rivered flush. My second time today playing a hand similarly.

 

[enno]

Don't know if it would have made any difference depending on the type of player villain was, but were your c-bets large enough so that he didn't have pot odds in order to call?
By the way - been there done that. TBSS

 

[deucefactory]

One time i use hole cards from one table for the board on another

 

[Flyer35]

One time i use hole cards from one table for the board on another

I like that!

 

[Flyer35]

Don't know if it would have made any difference depending on the type of player villain was, but were your c-bets large enough so that he didn't have pot odds in order to call?
By the way - been there done that. TBSS

Probably 2/3 pot. I find that most people are going to call any bet (including a shove) when they have 4 cards to a flush.

 

[Flyer35]

I really need to write these things up when they're fresh in my mind.

Anyway, it was another top pair hand. Except this time it was top pair versus top pair. I did my aggressive betting thing and my table-mate kept calling with the same hand, slightly better kicker. Lessons learned (actually reminded) - most folks will go to the mat with top pair, so 2 pair or a set are a strongly favoured winner and the type of hand to get it all in with (over 3 betting rounds) unless there are straight/flush draws (which there often are). The question is always - why are they calling every bet? The flush or straight completion card on the river is often a death notice.

 

[G0930]

The question is always - why are they calling every bet? The flush or straight completion card on the river is often a death notice.

Watch how many hands your bluffing. Maybe they act accordingly to your ATS rate.

Some players don't believe you no matter what or they continue calling because they feel too invested in their hand already (which can be exploited greatly)

 

[billibooo]

LOOOOL <3 and I Love this thread idea <3 Would it be okay to post when I think I played a hand badly here as well?
And I believe all our mistakes are the actual road we make getting to the best version of ourselves in this game Could be a very useful thread

 

[Flyer35]

LOOOOL <3 and I Love this thread idea <3 Would it be okay to post when I think I played a hand badly here as well?
And I believe all our mistakes are the actual road we make getting to the best version of ourselves in this game Could be a very useful thread

Certainly!

 

[Flyer35]

Watch how many hands your bluffing. Maybe they act accordingly to your ATS rate.

Some players don't believe you no matter what or they continue calling because they feel too invested in their hand already (which can be exploited greatly)

I do tend to steal. However, I've also noticed that most of the chips that I take in (that allow me to continue playing) come from steals. For sure though - a player in an earlier position is probably more likely to continue check/calling in that situation. Good point!

I have noticed that I get shoved into a lot from the blinds when I steal. Maybe I should just steal when I've already decided to call the shoves pre-flop. Which would mean only doing it with strong hands which is kind of opposite to the normal reasoning for playing according to position and stealing in the first place. Food for thought.

 

[pirateglenn]

Watch how many hands your bluffing. Maybe they act accordingly to your ATS rate.

Some players don't believe you no matter what or they continue calling because they feel too invested in their hand already (which can be exploited greatly)

Completely agree here - no matter what C bet and subsequent bets are made, some players will chase a flush to the planet Pluto and beyond.

 

[Flyer35]

So, lost a game today fairly early. I had absolutely nothing (AJ over cards in the SB) on a low flop with 2 cards of the same suit), but was distracted typing something else. So I shoved back on a flop against a member who bet into me and who had been clearly overplaying and/or bluffing a lot previously during the game.

Since he was initially stealing (3.5X) with 2 low suited cards (64s), I guess the appropriate strategy would have been to shove back against the steal pre-flop (which other folks do to me all the time). I say that to myself a lot , i.e., that I should start shoving a lot out of the blue like I see others doing. I kind of did that today but waited till the flop at which point he actually had a hand. So he made middle pair with a flush draw. Neither of our hands improved and he won. ** Of note - I see lots of people play AJ over-cards all-in from the flop al the time. I just rarely do it myself.

I wouldn't call that a loss since I play with that member a lot and now I know for sure that he steals with very weak cards, and how far he's willing to go and with what type of hand.In some ways playing to lose is a good strategy as you gain useful insight. And it was 'just' a freeroll.

 

[billibooo]

playing to lose is a good strategy as you gain useful insight.

<3 Agreed knowledge today is a win tomorrow

 

[okeedokalee]

Nice comment Billi, we do well to learn from each hand, win or lose.

 

[billibooo]

Nice comment Billi, we do well to learn from each hand, win or lose.

Thanks love <3 Hugs and I love all your comments too See you on the felts

 

[Flyer35]

Hey folks - I appreciate the interest in my thread. Just a reminder that I'm not looking for any comments that identify any specific member that may be considered "condescending". We had a couple of posts deleted here because of that. It took me a while to figure out what had happened but thanks to the generous assistance of an Admin it's all good now.

So let's keep it generic please. Happy poker!

 

[billibooo]

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This is the one and only thread where I also commit to not snark back if I feel picked upon. You're also welcome to make suggestions.

I want to make clear that I will not snark back either. I think anyone who offers themselves up to learn more hardcore lessons here, should make that solemn oath lol
Woohoo <3 so feel free to ask me about my hands and I hope we all grow together

 

[Flyer35]

I want to make clear that I will not snark back either. I think anyone who offers themselves up to learn more hardcore lessons here, should make that solemn oath lol
Woohoo <3 so feel free to ask me about my hands and I hope we all grow together

Thanks billi!

The Wall of Shame solemn oath:

I solemnly swear not to snark back no matter how bad my poker and how critical the feedback. ​

 

[billibooo]

 

[ironduke11]

Position play is super important im getting ti understand...if you fold 100% out of position though you are going to get bluffed off alot of hands.

 

[Flyer35]

Tournament pays 20. There are 21 remaining. I'm around 16. I get AQ and shove. Typically nobody calls a shove because we're only one away from the money. Of course I get 2 callers, both deeper than me - one AQ (same as me) and one AK. The flop comes low. The other AQ decided to get feisty. The turn was a King. Oops. The other AQ lost a bundle. I lost my seat.

Bad luck or bad strategy? I usually think in terms of making a lot of money, not just making it into the money. I still think it's a sound strategy but I can't recall a time it actually worked as planned.

 

[Flyer35]

Played the WPTGlobal freeroll. No shame this time. Had a few lucky hands early on - BOY does that feel good! Doesn't happen often, but when it does, wow! Then sat forever with nothing to play. Finally got some vaguely playable hands, hit the flops, but then my close friend bad luck came back wth a vengeance.

 

[Flyer35]

Played the 888Poker freeroll. Didn't get very far. The guy a couple of seats to my right played like he had the nuts (when he didn't have anything at all). I called his large bet on the flop but not on the turn. Would have won had I made that last call. Another player (with just TP) won the HUGE pot (not the guy who was pretending). Blows me away. There's just no telling what's going in in people's minds during some of these games.

Lesson leaned? Maybe make bad calls when nobody else seems to be taking the game seriously. Can't hurt. Yes, I think that's how I'll play that situation next time.

 

[Flyer35]

Played yesterday. Mate decided to shove with 88. I have TERRIBLE luck with all-in hands but reluctantly called the hand with QQ - lost, of course to the 88 hand. I gave up at that point and left my remaining 6,000 chips sitting on the table.

Played another bigger hand earlier where mate decided to shove with A8o. I called with with AQs - lost to the A8o who squeezed into a straight, of course.

No shame yesterday.