ObbleeXY
Visionary
Bronze Level
OK, so I've been a bit quiet recently...mostly because I'm tired of the "what is your favourite starting hand?| and really tired of "is poker skill or luck?" Nothing interesting to talk about.
But recently I've been trying to pay attention to C-Bets, Bet-sizing, board texture, etc.
I think a lot of people don't really think about their C-Bet all that much, whilst others are very specific about how they play.
Consider the following: Full ring. Tourney. Deep stacked. Early game. $5.50 entry. 200 players max.
UTG opens with 1BB.
Folds around to BTN who raises to 3.5BB.
SB folds.
BB Calls.
UTG Calls.
Flop is 4c, Td, As (rainbow, backdoor nut straight draw potential)
Now -- I have not told you about ANY of the hole cards. That is purposeful.
Post-Flop...
UTG checks, given his position and the fact he was raised.
BTN to act....
Now here is where my question is.
What does the following activity make you think about the strength/range of BTN's holding?
if The guy on the button...
a) Checks?
b) Min C-Bet?
c) 33% Pot C-Bet?
d) 50% Pot C-Bet?
e) Pot-sized Bet?
f) Shove?
Let's say, in addition, you have a HUD which gives the following stats for the player on the BTN:
VP - 22
PFR - 20
CB- 25
Let's discuss the ranges expected to be held by someone and what YOU think each bet size is trying to represent.
Are there sizings here where we automatically assume BTN is betting for value?
Are there sizings here where we think BTN is on a bluff?
There are obviously lots of other unkowns here. If you need to know some...set a value yourself and then draw your conclusions and let us know...
What sort of C-betting strategies are out there and what other factors should we be considering?
When should I be thinking of C-Betting Big vs C-Betting small?
Why C-Bet at all if I miss the flop?
Pick a question from above and please let me know your thoughts.
Thanks for your consideration.
Cheers,
ObbleeXY
But recently I've been trying to pay attention to C-Bets, Bet-sizing, board texture, etc.
I think a lot of people don't really think about their C-Bet all that much, whilst others are very specific about how they play.
Consider the following: Full ring. Tourney. Deep stacked. Early game. $5.50 entry. 200 players max.
UTG opens with 1BB.
Folds around to BTN who raises to 3.5BB.
SB folds.
BB Calls.
UTG Calls.
Flop is 4c, Td, As (rainbow, backdoor nut straight draw potential)
Now -- I have not told you about ANY of the hole cards. That is purposeful.
Post-Flop...
UTG checks, given his position and the fact he was raised.
BTN to act....
Now here is where my question is.
What does the following activity make you think about the strength/range of BTN's holding?
if The guy on the button...
a) Checks?
b) Min C-Bet?
c) 33% Pot C-Bet?
d) 50% Pot C-Bet?
e) Pot-sized Bet?
f) Shove?
Let's say, in addition, you have a HUD which gives the following stats for the player on the BTN:
VP - 22
PFR - 20
CB- 25
Let's discuss the ranges expected to be held by someone and what YOU think each bet size is trying to represent.
Are there sizings here where we automatically assume BTN is betting for value?
Are there sizings here where we think BTN is on a bluff?
There are obviously lots of other unkowns here. If you need to know some...set a value yourself and then draw your conclusions and let us know...
What sort of C-betting strategies are out there and what other factors should we be considering?
When should I be thinking of C-Betting Big vs C-Betting small?
Why C-Bet at all if I miss the flop?
Pick a question from above and please let me know your thoughts.
Thanks for your consideration.
Cheers,
ObbleeXY