Has anyone ever folded JJ preflop?

[Grzegorz00pl]

pokerstars Deal #246871807438: Tournament #3664627248, $0.48+$0.50+$0.12 USD Hold'em No Limit Level II (20/40) - 01/11/2023 22:38:24 CET [01/11/2023 17:38:24 ET]
Table '3664627248 17' 9-max Place No. 2 is the dealer
1st place: doceaman (3354 in chips, $0.50 bounty)
2nd place: felvar18644 (3558 in chips, 0.50$ bounty)
3rd place: SGCaldeira (2826 in chips, 0.50$ bounty)
4th place: Riohunter67 (3385 in chips, $0.50 bounty)
5th place: PBotti08 (2884 in chips, 0.50$ bounty)
Place # 6: Grzegorz00pl (6320 in chips, 0.50$ bounty)
7th place: matrosking7777 (4525 in chips, $0.50 bounty)
8th place: ad.macedo (1475 in chips, $0.50 bounty)
9th place: EUfoldoVC (421 in chips, 0.50$ bounty)
doceaman: pay ante 5
felvar18644: pay ante 5
SGCaldeira: pay ante 5
Riohunter67: pay ante 5
PBotti08: pay ante 5
Grzegorz00pl: pay ante 5
matrosking7777: pay ante 5
ad.macedo: pay ante 5
EufoldoVC: pay ante 5
SGCaldeira: pays the little dark 20
Riohunter67: pays big dark 40
*** OWN CARDS***
Player Grzegorz00pl received [Jd Jc]
PBotti08: fits
Grzegorz00pl: beats 40 to 80
matrosking7777: fits
ad.macedo: crosses 40 to 120
EUfoldoVC: fits
doceaman: fits
felvar18644: fits
SGCaldeira: fits
Riohunter67: checks 80
Grzegorz00pl: beats 680 to 800
ad.macedo: checks 680
Riohunter67: checks 680
*** FLOP*** [Ks 6s 8c]
Riohunter67: puts 2580 and goes all-in
Grzegorz00pl: fits
ad.macedo: fits
Untested bet (2580) returned to Riohunter67
Riohunter67 won 2465 from the pot
*** SUMMARY***
Total Pool 2465 | Commission 0
Table [Ks 6s 8c]
1st place: doceaman folded before Flop (did not play)
2nd place: felvar18644 (dealer) folded before Flop (did not play)
3rd place: SGCaldeira (little dark) folded in front of the Flop
4th place: Riohunter67 (big dark) won (2465)
5th place: PBotti08 folded before Flop (did not play)
Place 6: Grzegorz00pl folded on Flop
7th place: matrosking7777 folded before the Flop (did not play)
Place 8: ad.macedo switched to Flop
9th place: EuFoldOVC folded before the Flop (did not play)


LOOK - but it's not preflop

 

[PoKeRFoRNiA]

Yes. I folded QQ also in the past. Even when I know the guy's range is narrow where he can have AQs, depending in tournament and payout structure, I folded. I folded QQ to AKs. When i have good enough M zone, i dont want to risk the entire stack over a coinflip.

 

[takinitSLEAZEE]

Yes. When it's about making money or laddering up (same thing) folding JJ is an easy decision. There are so many situations where JJ is behind or will be. Remember, they're just cards.

 

[Luvepoker]

Is it true that the JJ have a curse when we are close to the awards? or in final table

I prefer JJ over KK any time. Not kidding. Now folding JJ in many situations is not that hard and is part of the reason I like them. They are also easy to play post flop as well in my opinion. Kings on the other hand are nearly imposable to fold pre flop and even post unless an Ace is out there they become much harder to fold.

 

[okeedokalee]

If you see a raise then a re-raise from two tight players what are you going to do with JJ?
Y ou have to decide what sort of range your Villains are likely holding.
JJ is vulnerable to AA, KK ,QQ, and these are tight Villains so really you are calling to set mine.
This is an instance where dumping JJ is correct.

 

[mssmotilda]

JJ is just small paire you can fold it but if you had 20bb far from mony you need to call it for exemple

Agree. This is a hand that needs to be played carefully.

 

[Zaner]

Is it true that the JJ have a curse when we are close to the awards? or in final table

i fold JJ some times preflop,in the beginning of tournament and if was deepstack like 80-200BB

 

[choprav]

Yeah with a player covering me went all in and I was near the bubble. Fold and wait for better could have Premium hand easily or just get lucky and knock you out, not worth it

 

[idvelkka]

many times, even today one time

 

[idvelkka]

i even fold AA , i always lose with them 😂

 

[Recreationalplayer]

Yes. JJ is flipping in many situations against AQ+ and an underdog against QQ+. So it's a disciplined fold.

However, if the opponent is loose and has lower pocket pairs in his range, then JJ is a call.

 

[martinoni]

Yes mainly when I'm near ITM

 

[Dougana]

Yes, I even fold pocket AA, especially in tournament, you have no idea how many times I lost with pocket AA, KK, QQ, JJ in bubble against marginal hands, but all depend of how the people in your table play.

 

[Viparida]

yes, definitely. JJ is foldable sometimes.

 

[IRINA70]

Many times. Especially when I'm at early position and close to bubble.

 

[GNuTTz]

No. I have not- and will never do so moving forward either.

 

[Kinalha]

No. I have not- and will never do so moving forward either.

Look guys, as long as you see comments like this, the question "is poker still profitable?" You know the answer is still an obvious yes

 

[Comboss599]

It's nothing strange to fold JJ preflop especially if you in the bobble or already in cash. There are many better hands than pocket JJ.

 

[Mr.$t0k]

I am fold if opponent go all in and we have some playing people with us.

 

[Stringy]

a lot of times

 

[Niveau1]

It always depends on the stack size, position, playing style of the opponents. Bet and 3bet are indications that JJ is not necessarily +EV. And that's why, of course, it's been thrown into the muck several times.

 

[sibkaz]

Looking at the stack, JJ and QQ often lose.

 

[Igor Popadyk]

good starting hand but is it top? if, for example, in the raise range the opponent has AA, AK, or for example is ready to play, at best, he can, for example, against AD