10 steps to get more meaningful answers to your hand review questions

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This post is addressed to anyone looking for better feedback to your hand review questions.
To get the best information, you should make sure you start your poker story correctly.

1. Name the game: e.g. 1/2 NLHE.
2. State your seating position: e.g (UTG, UTG+1, UTG+2, LJ, HJ, CO, BTN,SB,BB)
3. State your hole cards: Each card abbreviated using the following: AKQJT98765432
Refer to both cards. If they are the same suit, use the suffix s. If they are off-suit, use o.
E,g AKs (hearts)or KQo. If it is relevant, you can state the suits. (ie.g. if play results in flush draws, this info may be germaine.
5. Describe the pre-flop action up to you, then you and followers: e.g Action folds around to LJ who calls, HJ raises to 3BB, CO folds and Hero 3-bets from the button to 7BB whilst the blinds fold. LJ subsequently folds and HJ calls.
6. State the pot size at end of each round of betting. E.g. The pot is now 16.5BB plus antes.
7. Describe the flop using the aforementioned card abbreviation Flop is QJT (all hearts).
8. Describe post flop action similarly (but naming only those players in the hand).
9. Repeat descriptions for Turn and River (cards and betting with pot size).
10. You are the HERO. Your opponent(s), the VILLAIN(s).

Note: talking in terms of the number of Big Blinds is far more useful than a chip denominations. Ie, he 4-bet to 10BB rather than 4-bet to 125,000 chips (the latter being almost meaningless as it has no context).

The above may be imperfect, and some people will want to see the suits every time, but essentially this will describe your game more clearly so that contributors will be able to give you clearer, more appropriate feedback.

Hope this helps everyone!

Cheers,
ObbleeXY
 
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Very clear explanation!! It's indeed the desirable detail to properly review hands, same structure as in the e-book from Cardschat!
However, I think it's a bit complicated for most newbies (myself included) to elaborate a hand like that, and one would probably leave out a few details. But it's 100% the ideal guideline to be following in order to get more meaningful feedback.
Maybe you can throw in some example hands so that it's easier for people to go ahead and copy/pasta :)
 
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This is absolutely correct; all of this type of info is needed to get good answers to hand questions!

One nice way to help is to use the CardsChat hand converter available here. It's a great tool to automatically provide this information in a nice visual format.
 
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This post is addressed to anyone looking for better feedback to your hand review questions.
To get the best information, you should make sure you start your poker story correctly.

1. Name the game: e.g. 1/2 NLHE.
2. State your seating position: e.g (UTG, UTG+1, UTG+2, LJ, HJ, CO, BTN,SB,BB)
3. State your hole cards: Each card abbreviated using the following: AKQJT98765432
Refer to both cards. If they are the same suit, use the suffix s. If they are off-suit, use o.
E,g AKs (hearts)or KQo. If it is relevant, you can state the suits. (ie.g. if play results in flush draws, this info may be germaine.
5. Describe the pre-flop action up to you, then you and followers: e.g Action folds around to LJ who calls, HJ raises to 3BB, CO folds and Hero 3-bets from the button to 7BB whilst the blinds fold. LJ subsequently folds and HJ calls.
6. State the pot size at end of each round of betting. E.g. The pot is now 16.5BB plus antes.
7. Describe the flop using the aforementioned card abbreviation Flop is QJT (all hearts).
8. Describe post flop action similarly (but naming only those players in the hand).
9. Repeat descriptions for Turn and River (cards and betting with pot size).
10. You are the HERO. Your opponent(s), the VILLAIN(s).

Note: talking in terms of the number of Big Blinds is far more useful than a chip denominations. Ie, he 4-bet to 10BB rather than 4-bet to 125,000 chips (the latter being almost meaningless as it has no context).

The above may be imperfect, and some people will want to see the suits every time, but essentially this will describe your game more clearly so that contributors will be able to give you clearer, more appropriate feedback.

Hope this helps everyone!

Cheers,
ObbleeXY


Wow, this is so good it should be a sticky post!

@Debbie Chances of making this happen?? :cool:
 
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Wow, this is so good it should be a sticky post!

@Debbie Chances of making this happen?? :cool:


Wow! Thanks for the positive feedback! I'm a big fan and have read your chapter in JL's Excelling at No-Limit Hold'em!
 
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Boas dicas, agrega muito na hora de revisar uma mão.
 
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A description of your assessment of the villain player type can also be helpful (ie. tight aggressive, maniac, etc.) as well as HUD stats.
 
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Think I left out Hero and Villain Stack sizes...
That's a good thing though.
This one now "goes to Eleven".
 
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Boas dicas, agrega muito na hora de revisar uma mão.


For the rest of you who don't speak Portuguese...

"Good tips, it adds a lot when revising a hand."

is a rough translation of what Paulo said. (and although slightly off-topic, the CC editor appears to have a translator for when you post. You can use Google Translate widget. Saves everyone else from having to leave CC to get the gist of a reply.)

Cheers,
ObbleeXY
 

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